Hey guys welcome to episode number 231 of the Industrial Strength Show.

Today my brother from another mother, Smitty, is joining me. So the show starts with a little back and forth banter little kind of introductory conversation.

We catch up on life.

I talk to Sm somebody about preparing for my new my potential new schedule no more

midnight workouts just another week or two and then things about to change drastically in my life and my schedule.

So we discussed that a little bit.

I ask Smitty for some dad advice some family stuff we're

going through over here on the defranco. So I feel there's always value in those types of conversations

and back and forth.

So whether you are a dad or a parent or not, I think you'll find some value and entertainment during that conversation.

That's about the first 20 to 22 minutes of the show, then we get into our training talk.

We discuss how we come up with such innovative exercises.

A lot of people ask us that and I do not believe we ever

discussed kind of the thought process and behind the scenes what goes on and

why you would come up with different type innovative exercises,

the wise and the hows. So we give you some insight on that. Then we talk about kettle bell swings. Do we like love or actually

dislike them? And that leads into a little disagreement on the Turkish get-up which I think you guys will find interesting and

then continuing with the specific exercises we talk about how we recommend you best incorporate the farmers walk into your programming.

That is an all-star of an exercise that we both program very frequently so we discuss that.

Then we that kind of segues into a little grip talk and for those of you who follow Smitty on Instagram you may have

seen he he posted a vintage old school video recently of him ripping two decks of cards in half which is insane so we talk

about that what he did to train for that how he developed that type of insane grip then we get into our

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