You are mathematically incredibly unique. You are actually weird because you are unique and different and if you find a way to put your interests into what you do, into your life and the way you create or who you are, you

become incredibly unique. And if people are going to call you weird, screw them. Screw. I'm going looking forward to talking today Joey because of our previous

conversation but mostly because of this 400 page book that you sent over to me which I'm just

super appreciative to have in my hands. I've read through it. I've got no I've

finished most of it and I just feel so much that it resonates and aligns with the things I think about.

It's just better written than I could say.

The stories are better, it's better researched, and I'm also super impressed that it's

self-published. And we were just joking before we went

started recording here it's like everything is by you text by Joey designed by Joey

exterior design interior, interior design.

First, let me just ask you that question.

Why is everything done by you?

So that's not how it is at Baron Fig,

by the way, thanks for happy to be here.

Excited to chat. I felt that if I was going to write a book on creativity and talk about the scope of what I've done in the past talk about how you can learn anything not to be afraid.

I felt like I needed to set that example and I needed to, you know, obviously I wrote it.

There's no ghost writing or anything. And you know I've obviously I wrote it there's no ghost writing or anything right and you know I designed the interior and like you said the cover and I felt like I couldn't have a book on creativity with the cover be designed by someone else.

Mm. It would would, I would never get over that.

Okay.

You know?

And so I ended up doing everything, but that's not my philosophy in general at Baron Fig.

You know, I put trust in the right people

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