In this episode, I sit down with Cy Wakeman to discuss leadership and why ego is one of the worst things you can do as a leader.

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Welcome to another episode of Tiny Leaps. Big Changes, where I share simple strategies you can use to get more out of your life.

My name is Greg Clunice and in this episode I sit down with Cy Wakeman. She is the author of no ego and reality-based leadership.

And we are here to discuss what it is like both from an employee's point of view and from a

leader's point of view as well as how those two things overlap and should overlap

in the workplace. So sigh, thank you so much for joining us.

I am pumped to learn about these two books.

I'm pumped to learn about your story

and just better understand how you got

to the philosophies that you talk about in these books.

Thanks, Craig, absolutely glad to be here.

So just as a disclaimer to the listeners, I have not read either of these books, but I have done a bit of research on

sigh and the reason she's on this show is because I honestly believe that her

philosophies around leadership could help quite a few people.

Like I'm thinking of very specific people

that listen to this show and have reached out to me

about these topics.

So, Cy, why don't you give us just a little bit

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