2/4: The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI, and the Race to Invent the Future by Keach Hagey (Author)
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 12 July 2025
⏱️ 8 minutes
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by Keach Hagey (Author)
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| 0:00.0 | The weather. Tomorrow, expect a biting cold front. Hmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be |
| 0:06.9 | wearing or taking off. The night will be wild and untamed. Expect heavy, lashing rain that'll soak you |
| 0:13.8 | to the skin. By Monday, temperatures will rise slowly but surely reaching their peak in the afternoon. |
| 0:21.2 | Not in the mood for miserable weather? |
| 0:23.5 | Fly cheaply to Turkey with Sun Express. |
| 0:26.3 | Sun Express, non-stop sunshine. |
| 0:34.3 | This is CBSI on the world. |
| 0:36.6 | I'm John Batson with Keech Hagee, the reporter who turned her very careful note-taking, and all of her researchers are thanked at the end of her book. |
| 0:47.0 | An enormous amount of reporting here to give us the optimist, Sam Altman, Open AI, and the race to invent the future. |
| 0:53.6 | Now we follow the |
| 0:54.6 | protagonist, our Horatio algebra figure. It is St. Louis and a family living in a very comfortable |
| 1:02.0 | house where you can walk to school, something like I lived in in the 1950s. I thought I was |
| 1:07.1 | lost forever, but this is the 1980s and 90s. Sam Altman is the son of, not the eldest son, not the youngest son, and not all boys either, of Jerry and Connie. |
| 1:19.2 | Who are they? |
| 1:19.8 | How are they critical to Sam's formation? |
| 1:24.7 | Jerry Altman was a very idealistic real estate developer who started his career working in affordable housing. |
| 1:32.4 | And, you know, like Connie, they both came from Jewish families, from Clayton, which is a Tony suburb on the outskirts of St. Louis. |
| 1:42.6 | So they came from sort of the same worlds in many ways. |
| 1:46.6 | And Jerry was a dreamer, and he was an idealistic person. And he spent a lot of his early |
| 1:53.4 | career trying to create these public-private partnerships, trying to figure out ways to get |
| 1:58.2 | government to make it so that businesses wanted to invest and house for people. |
| 2:04.6 | And I think that growing up in St. Louis in the 60s, when things were really challenging, the racial dynamic was really hard there, really shaped who he became. |
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