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The John Batchelor Show

1/4: The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI, and the Race to Invent the Future by Keach Hagey (Author)

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 12 July 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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1/4: The Optimist: Sam Altman, OpenAI, and the Race to Invent the Future 
by  Keach Hagey  (Author)
1966 DC


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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.2

I'm John Batchelor.

0:15.8

I welcome Keech Hage, the author of The Optimist,

0:20.3

Sam Altman, Open AI, and The Race to Invent the Future.

0:25.4

I congratulate you, Keach, and thank you very much, and I take you to a scene in your reporting,

0:31.5

very careful reporting. It is January 4, 2016 in San Francisco. Some of the principles of ChachyPT are gathered, having committed

0:42.4

themselves to the document that's critical here the previous month, December 11th, co-authored by

0:49.5

Brockman and Siskova. It announces the launch of OpenAI as a non-profit research company backed by

0:56.2

one million in funding from Elon Musk. Wow. So we need to introduce the names here. Who is Mr.

1:04.1

Brockman? Who is Mr. Sutskiefer? And why do they need a billion dollars in January of 2016?

1:10.5

Good evening to you.

1:11.9

Hello, great to be here. So Greg Brockman was the co-founder of OpenA.I., this new research

1:18.7

lab, and Ilya Sutskever, what was another co-founder, who was really going to be the chief

1:23.3

scientist, the sort of leading scientific light for research. And although they had just put out

1:28.8

a press release saying they raised a billion dollars, it started extremely modestly in Greg

1:33.0

Brockman's apartment where they didn't even have a whiteboard. They were just sitting around,

1:37.9

kicking around ideas. Greg Rockman had to like wash the cups for the small handful of researchers

1:43.6

because they didn't really

1:45.3

have any idea what they were doing and they were trying to keep costs very, very low in the

1:49.6

beginning. Yes, this is something called deep mind, but I need to, I need your help in identifying

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