1KHO 780: When Speaking Up is Costly | Elise Heerde, After the Exit

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In this deeply personal episode of The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, Ginny Yurich talks with Elise Heerde, author of After the Exit, about what happens when families raise concerns in places that are supposed to protect children and are punished instead of heard. Together they explore high-control communities, the weaponization of belonging, and the lasting impact these experiences can have on both kids and families. At its core, this conversation is about child safety and well-being. Elise helps explain why child safety depends on adults being allowed to ask hard questions, trust their instincts, and speak up without fear. Find Elise’s work, coaching, and resources at the Religious Trauma Collective and get a copy of After the Exit . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:23.1	Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast.
0:25.2	My name is Ginny Hirt.
0:26.1	I'm the founder of 1,000 hours outside.
0:28.2	And I have a guest today.
0:29.3	Really, it's like very personal for me.
0:31.9	But also some feedback I've gotten is that this might be part of your story as well.
0:36.9	And I have Elise heard today and she wrote a book called After the Exit.
0:41.8	This is just one of several books, The Long Tail of Coercive Control.
0:45.4	You left, it lingered now what?
0:48.3	And you help people around the world.
0:50.4	Now I know you're stationed, you know, you talk about Australia and New Zealand, but you're
0:54.1	you help people around the world with And I know you're stationed, you know, you talk about Australia and New Zealand, but you're you help people around the world with religious trauma and leaving cults.
0:59.6	Yes, I do. Thank you so much for having me. Okay. So this is part of your story. And if people have
1:05.7	listened to the podcast, this comes up more regularly than I would like that we are church revokies and were kicked
1:12.7	out of a church like that would seem like a very normal church.
1:17.0	You know, kids programs would be considered a mega church in our area where we're at in Michigan
1:21.2	and we were kicked out of the church solely because we sent in letters of concern about
1:26.6	the youth pastor who then turned out to be a pedophile.
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