1KHO 781: Never Get Lost in Conversation Again | Heather Holleman, The Six Conversations

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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The number one personal development skill is interpersonal curiosity and yet a lot of us don’t quite know what to do once a conversation gets past the basics. You're going to love this one and get so much out of it! Heather Holleman, author of ⁠The Six Conversations⁠, joins Ginny Yurich on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast to talk about what actually helps. This is a really practical conversation about how to ask better questions, how to listen in a way that makes people feel known, and how to keep things going without it feeling forced or awkward. There are ideas here you can use right away with your kids, your friends, and the people you see every day. They also talk about loneliness, faith, and Heather’s middle grade novel ⁠This Seat’s Saved⁠, which weaves so naturally into the heart of this message. Find her books and resources at ⁠https://heatherholleman.com⁠. Get your copy of The Six Conversations and put it in your purse just like Ginny does! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Jenny Urge. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours
0:04.4	Outside and I have read over 700 books for this podcast and I've just recently read one that I'm keeping
0:10.7	in my purse. Out of 700 books, there's never been a book that I'm like, I am keeping this book
0:16.1	in my purse and I'm going to tell you what it is in just a minute but the author of that book
0:20.2	and many other books and also she teaches writing for advanced writing at some honors college that I can't even pronounce at Penn State. Heather Holloman, welcome. Oh, I'm so excited to be on this podcast. Thank you for having me. Okay, tell us about your backstory here. You teach us advanced writing course at Shreyer yes at Penn State it's the
0:38.5	Shrier honors college that wasn't as hard as I thought so it's I am in charge of the advanced
0:42.7	writing program for them I help them with their thesis writing and all of their professional
0:46.5	development okay what's the backstory there so you teach the art of persuasion you teach
0:51.5	effective argumentation yes this is rhetoric and communication.
0:55.8	Yes, rhetoric and composition. Yep. I got my PhD in English literature. I loved British poets,
1:02.2	nature poets, but I quickly realized how much I love teaching. So now I'm in the composition
1:07.2	classroom and I love teaching writing and I love writing writing but mostly I just love being with the students.
1:12.6	They are phenomenal and it is a great career to just be with college students.
1:16.6	Oh, I love it.
1:17.6	Okay, so the book that I'm keeping in my purse and I think is one of the most valuable books I've ever come across is called, and it's small enough to keep in there.
1:26.6	It's called the six conversations,
1:28.9	pathways to connecting in an age of isolation and incivility. And what's so interesting is that
1:34.5	two days ago, I talked to Gary Chapman, who is the love language's guy. And he has a new book
1:40.4	out, and he was talking in his book about conversation and listening.
1:45.0	And he said, the most important question is the follow-up question.
1:49.0	And Gary Chapman wrote the forward to this book, The Six Conversations, and so if you have no idea what the follow-up question is or the starting question, you're going to find it in this book.
2:00.0	So can you talk about that we love each other well?
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