We have had so many guests on this show, talk about how powerful the outdoors can be for kids, especially kids with ADHD or different ways of learning and processing the world. And if you are raising a child with ADHD dyslexia, a language disorder, or really any kind of learning difference, I want to share a podcast that I think you'll really appreciate. It's called Everyone Gets a Juice Box. It's parents just being honest with each other in a really safe, welcoming space about the highs and lows of raising neurodivergent kids. And what I love about it is is how real it is. There was one story about a mom who had this big career, running a major podcast division, and she realized she hadn't been home to see her daughter before bed for weeks. And at the same time, she was starting to notice these little moments, like her daughter freezing up during a simple preschool performance and just having that gut feeling like

something's different here and then all the doubt that comes with that like other people saying she

seems fine well you're sitting here thinking but i'm her parent and i know her this mom eventually

stepped back in and reconnected and created little games together just to help her daughter communicate

better it's such a good reminder that connection doesn't have to be complicated. It just has to be intentional. So if that interests you, go check it out. To listen, search for Everyone Gets a Juice box in your podcast app. That's Everyone Gets a Juicebox. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urge. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside, and I have read a book that I think you will love, and you are going to want to read it too. It's about being a beginner. It's called Beginners, the joy and transformative power of lifelong learning author. Tom Vanderbilt is here. Welcome, Tom. Thanks, Jenny. Great to be here.

I love this book, Tom. So I'm going to tell you just a very quick story before we kick it off. We've just spent a lot of time outside with our kids. That's the whole point, kind of dropping a lot of the extracurriculars when they were young and spending these large swath time outside. And there was never any other kids. That's kind of why I started writing about it. like we'd be outside from nine in the morning until one in the afternoon in like the metro Detroit area. And we wouldn't run into any other kids except for the small group of kids that we came with. And so I was always like, where are the kids? And we had moved to this house where when anytime we left, we drove past this school.

And on the weekends on Saturday mornings, they would just be like, it seemed like thousands of people there for basketball games or soccer games.

I was like, oh, that's where all the kids are. You know, they're doing these organized sports.

And I was like, why would people spend like their whole Saturday you know they've got

often it was like they were tailgating they would have um campers set up I was like why would they do that

no one's in the woods and then we put our kids on a swim team and I had the first experience of like

sitting up on the sidelines you know up in the bleachers where so, well, somebody else had my kid, you know, swimming laps.

And I just got to sit there. And I was like, oh, I get it.

Like that sort of just, I just get to sit to relax, but my kid is growing. So I feel like something good is happening.

But I'm not really doing anything. I'm on my phone or I'm reading a book.

So anyways, I just so related to this book beginners, as well, if we could kick it off

with where we're at here in society, which is like our kids are doing all sorts of cool

things, but almost exclusively the parents are sitting on the sidelines.

Yeah, that's a great story. And it's exactly what motivated me to write the book because I was one of

those people with the sore behind sitting on a set of bleachers or whatever. And I think it was a

swim class. My daughter was in that really, it really just struck home. I spent, I don't know,

38 hours totally, totally literally literally looking at my phone,

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