We have had a lot of conversations on this show about how every child is different and how especially

for kids with ADHD or other learning differences, the world can feel a little overwhelming

sometimes. And if you're parenting a child like that, I want to point you to a podcast called

Everyone Gets a Juice Box. It's a space where parents are just being really honest with each other

about what this journey actually looks like, the questions, the doubts, the small wins, all of it. One part of a recent episode that really stuck with me was this

mom who was talking about how she started noticing things early on. Little signals that

something might be different, but at the same time everyone around her was saying she's fine,

and she described that feeling so well that back and forth between I know something's going on

and what if I'm overreacting. I think so many parents have felt that tension. And then when she shared this moment where her daughter said, I can feel it, talking about her body not giving her the signals she needed. And it opened up this whole understanding about how some kids experience the world so differently on a sensory level. It was such a powerful reminder that often our kids are having a hard time and the more we understand what's going on beneath the surface, the better we can show up for them. I really appreciated how thoughtful and honest the whole conversation was. So if that sounds like something you need right now, go give it a listen. To listen, search for Everyone Gets a Juice Box in your podcast app. That's Everyone Gets a Juice Box. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Arrit. I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside. And I'm so excited today. I have one of Josh's friends and husband of a dear friend of mine, Rachel. And I would say that we're friends too, but more so your friends with Josh. Dan Kovac, husband of Rachel Kovac, who has the most incredible book out. It is called Their Future is Shining Bright, a Guide to Homchooling in High School and Equipping Your Child for Success and Fulfillment in Adulthood. Isn't that what we all want? We want to equip our children for success and fulfillment in adulthood. And so we're going to be talking about home education. We're going to be talking about the world of work from a father's perspective. Dan, thanks for being here. Oh, Jenny, it's amazing. First, like, in no other universe would I ever expect to make your podcast other than I'm married to Rachel, who wrote this book. So I'm so thrilled to be here and thank you for that introduction. It's great to see you. So the book is phenomenal. And so if you're listening to this, it is out now and it's already hitting bestseller list. We're recording a couple weeks before book launch and already the book is hitting bestseller list because I think Dan, people are looking at the way of the world, you know, what's going on in the world. There's a lot of uncertainty there. And I also just think, gosh, by the time you get to high school, it's really fun to hang out with your kids. And a lot of people want to usher them through those years where they're really coming into their own. you know, they have their different hobbies and their

interests and their passions. And yet a lot of times we're scared to sort of continue through high school.

And so this is such an incredible resource that Rachel has created for families all across the world.

And I know that you contributed to different parts too. We're going to be talking about that.

But I would love if you kick it off. You have got a super unique story. We're going to be talking about your story. We're going to be talking about that. But I would love if you kick it off. You have got a super

unique story. We're going to be talking about your story. We're going to be talking about your

career where you have worked with thousands over the years, just incredible in the world of business

and just thinking through what are employees looking for. So we're going to kind of run the gamut,

starting from little Dan,

all the way to current Dan. But you had some bouts of homeschooling in your early life, but probably

more interesting than most anyone else, because you are being homeschooled in West Africa. Can you

talk about how you ended up there? Yeah, absolutely.

My parents decided to work overseas when I was about six years old.

And I have three siblings, and so they went through some education to become linguists,

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