It's helpful to remember that everyone you admire in your field or in any field is just another human being like you.

They're scared, they're fearful, they're insecure.

I can tell you the more successful you become, it doesn't get any better. You don't get less

scared. You have just new fears, new insecurities. The problem is that it becomes harder because now you have fewer people

to talk about them with because you'll be judged if you share your successful person fears.

Nobody understands you so the pool of people that you can relate to diminishes. The Grandma I'm excited to talk to you today. Your message to me was really compelling. I'm like, okay, this guy gets it. I think we're doing very similar things wanting to support our communities. So let's just start there.

Before we get going, can you introduce yourself and then tell us a little story about who you are and what you do?

Yeah, and I'm so pumped to hang out and talk.

What you're doing is amazing, Chris.

Yeah, and I own two online businesses.

I started in the music space with a brand called The Recording Revolution.

I started that in 09.

And the goal there was, I didn't actually

know what I was doing in 09, but the goal there

was to help musicians make better sounding recordings, tell them what gear to buy, how to use

the gear without having gone to audio school, just tips and tricks and that

turned into an online business. I didn't know that was a thing and so that became

super successful, it became the

coolest thing I'd ever done I really enjoyed it fell in love with it and and then I

fell in love with helping people start their own business around their

own knowledge their own knowledge, their own skill set, their own hobbies, just like I had and that turned into this personal brand, Graham Cochran.com. I launched in 2018.

And that's just been an amazing journey that was like a passion

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