Welcome to Java with Julie. Actually today you get Java with Julie's, plural, because my guest is also a Julie.

And I feel like we were like twins separated at birth. We've got so much in common.

Yeah, it's true. From the first time we met Julie, I felt that kindred spirit.

So, really thrilled to be with you.

Well, glad you're here. And

let me introduce you to our audience. Julie Rice is a broadcast media professionalist. I love

saying that, right? Do you say it right? I think I got it right. I'm not the professional.

You are. Professional. Yeah, there we go. That works. That works. You have a show on Moody Radio Network, which is also a podcast, which I love. It is called Up for Debate. And the idea behind it is you have two people on that have differing views on an issue, and you're just kind of moderate and let them go at it, right? More or less. So have you ever had people get like really...

Exercise?

Yes.

Yes, we have.

It doesn't happen often.

Initially, when we were designing the show,

we really wanted to create a culture

where it wouldn't just be sort of the Christian version of Crossfire

or Riley or something like that.

But to really develop a culture of respect and thoughtfulness and listening to each other.

So I think we've done that pretty successfully.

But occasionally, yeah, some people get pretty worked up and you have to sort of, you know, simmer

them down a little bit.

You feel like you're in parenting mode?

No name calling. Sometimes. Sometimes, but generally the guests that we have on, we select pretty carefully, like yourself, you've been on, talking about a pretty sensitive topic, as I recall. That's my life. Yeah, it is your life. So you're used to it. I was sweating bullets, but you're probably as comfortable as can be.

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