You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience

relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome

insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships.

I'm your host, Relationship Coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here.

Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of On Attachment.

In today's episode, we are talking all about phones and the role that phones play in our relationships,

in shaping our experience of being in relationship, our relationship satisfaction,

our sense of intimacy and connection with our partners.

Obviously, this is a really big topic and it's one that probably doesn't get spoken about

enough given the

absolute centrality of phones to our modern lives. As I was preparing for this episode and reflecting

that probably even 10 years ago, it wasn't anywhere near what it is now in terms of the level of

dependence that we all experience on our phones, on our devices, how ubiquitous these things are that we are

absolutely tethered to. It's rare that your phone is more than a meter or two away. And if you've ever

done the scary but illuminating thing of looking in your screen time data at the number of times

you pick up your phone in an hour or in a day. I mean, it's pretty scary stuff.

And I think that given phones, you know, they've not only changed the way that we communicate

and therefore have an impact on our relationships, because obviously communication is a big part

of that. But I actually think because they've changed so much just the way that we spend our time

on a moment-to-moment basis in intimate relationship, because so much of that time is together,

and that's how we connect with our partner. It's really detracted, I think, from the quality

of our presence and connection in many cases. And so it's had really far-reaching

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