We had imposter syndrome for at least five six years where we were like in every meeting we were like oh my god soon someone's gonna call our bluff and realize that we're not sure about anything but then after also almost around five years we realized that

wait a minute there's almost no one in any meaning knowing anything but there's a lot of

people pretending that they know and then we felt like why do everyone keep acting like they know when they don't know

people shouldn't have imposter syndrome because it's just like everyone are humans. The Welcome to the future podcast, a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing and business.

I'm Greg Gunn. If Punk Rock were a genre of design agency, then

Snask would definitely be the sex pistols. As they say on their website,

Snask is a creative agency of misfit geniuses, conquering the world through

fine-looking design and real emotions. To worry about what people think of us is a waste of time.

Well said, Snask. In today's episode we are fortunate enough to be joined by the

founder of Snask and really get to know him as a person. And in the spirit of his agency, the conversation oscillates between emotional vulnerability and genuine playfulness.

So if all goes well, you will laugh, cry, and be inspired in no particular order.

All right, I'm not going to say much else because I think you should just listen to it.

Please enjoy our conversation with Freddieost.

I'm really excited to talk to you because I didn't know who you were until I saw you backstage at the

design conference in Brisbane and I knew that they had you up there for a reason because you guys are wild.

And I remember you saying to me backstage like, yeah, I usually bring a rock band.

But you said it in such a deadpan manner.

I wasn't sure if you were serious or you're pulling my leg.

And it turned out you were serious and you do such an unusual presentation.

Like, I was kind of on the edge of my seat like thinking,

what is going on with these guys that come on one person sits on a couch and then you're doing your thing and the thing is you win everybody over the minute you start to show your work and you talk about it.

There's a humor, there's an intelligence to the work that you guys do and a freshness to it that I think you just win people over that way.

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