I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work.

I would say at home edition, but technically this is at the office edition.

So interesting. All my podcasts up before the pandemic, I was in my car. It was actually driving my car.

And then during the pandemic, I started recording with people because I was at home. People liked those.

So now either I'm driving in my car or I'm at home recording an interview.

But I'm with Brian Holly. We're going to talk about foundations today. So it turned out that

the easiest time for us to do it was at work. So this is the first time a thousand plus

podcast in. I'm actually at work recording something.

So anyway, welcome, Brian.

Thank you.

Hello.

So we're going to talk foundations.

So where to be in?

How did foundations happen?

How did it become nothing into something?

Great.

I feel like I should probably introduce myself.

Oh, sure.

I'm Brian Hawley.

I'm the game design director for Magic,

so I kind of oversee the designers and managers and that group. Also, for this purpose,

I was the set design lead for Magic Foundations. Okay, so you're the lead. So let's talk a little bit about it.

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