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Soul traders or limited company I in the world.

I'm John Bachelor.

I welcome Andrew McCarthy of the National Review online

to help me understand the many trials and courtrooms for former President Donald Trump,

we begin with the civil trial in New York supervised by Judge Arthur Engerran that has led to a demand of Mr. Trump for millions and millions and millions

of dollars. The number keeps going up because apparently you get to pay interest on this

before you turn it in.

And you have a very good evening to you.

Your most recent piece that the National Review online identifies that Mr. Trump's

lieutenants, counselors, have come forward to say he cannot make the

deadline for providing cash or some version of the money necessary in order to appeal the decision by Judge Engerran.

Now this is a civil trial. There's nothing criminal here. So what is the

protocol that they're talking about?

Good evening to you.

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