This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel.

The People's Republic of China, Xi Jinping, in his third term, as absolute master of the Chinese

Communist Party.

What is to be done?

I welcome Peter Berkowitz, who at the Hoover Institution writes passionately about Asian policy

because part of his work was Asia when he was

at the State Department during the first Trump term. Now it's the second Trump term. We're

at the moment of decision making in the Trump administration about China. And Peter points me in his most recent column for

real clear politics to a document from the china economic and strategy

initiative which described itself as a non-profit research organization

surprisingly similar to work that peter and his allies she turned out at the

state department once upon a time.

I'm looking at a document that is humbly entitled, The Elements of the China Challenge.

That was then. This is now. Same challenge. So let's look at what is to be done for the Trump administration.

Peter, a very good evening to you.

In the document from the State Department back then, before the Biden team,

you identified the Uyghurs as an example of the outrageous conduct of the People's Republic of China

that must be in some fashion confronted.

In your measure, these last four years of the Biden administration, has there been follow-through

on that or are we back at the place you were in in about 2019?

Good evening, too.

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