Broadcasting live from the Wellness Wonderland, you're listening to The Wellness Wonderland radio.

I'm Katie, and each week I chat with the most inspirational people on the planet on how to stay inspired in all areas of life.

As you listen, feel free to tweet at me at Katie Dale Bow or use the hashtag Wellness Wonderland.

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So grab your headphones and listen on the go or cuddle up with a notebook as we dive in deep with authentic conversations right here in Wonderland.

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the show. I am so glad you're here. I'm going to keep

this intro so brief because today's episode is not brief. It is amazing and a little bit

long and just normalized. But it's with one of my best friends in the entire world.

And you might recall her, if you've been a long time listener, she was on episode, I don't know,

two, three, four, one of the very first episodes.

Her name is Carly.

And she is the genius behind culinary karma.

And she's become one of my best friends in the entire world and she's changed and grown a lot

since about almost three years ago when I very first interviewed her and now you get to hear us have

our second recorded conversation but we've had many many a conversation just like this one that we don't

record, and we thought we would try to record one because we end up talking about some really

interesting, delightful, fascinating, hopefully helpful things in our conversations with each other.

So we thought we would share this one with you. And she's doing a lot of cool new things now.

She has this sexy self-care course coming out that I just have to plug because I love it.

And I actually encouraged her to create it because she's really helped me in that area of my life.

And now I know she's going to be helping a lot of other people, perhaps you as well.

So if you're interested in that, click the link in the show notes and it will take you to her program.

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