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The Futur with Chris Do

054 - The Struggle of Being — with Lilian Darmono (Pt. 2)

The Futur with Chris Do

The Futur

Arts, Education, Marketing, Design, Business, Self-improvement

4.9998 Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Lilian Darmono is a Creative and Art Director specialising in character-driven animated and illustrative pieces. Her expertise is helping clients communicate their brand message, through a diverse range of aesthetic and medium. Her spare time is dedicated to helping the creative community flourish through journalism, mentorship and public speaking engagements. This has included being a speaker at Faux Images Berlin, a guest lecturer at Maryland Institute College of Art, and many more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you to stop,

0:04.4

to stop, go back and give it a listen.

0:06.7

When women speak up, they get attacked by not just by men, but by other women as well.

0:17.0

If you don't have anything to say, like you said what you said before, if you don't have anything

0:27.0

good to say, don't say anything. I am Lillian and you're listening to the future.

0:47.0

I think it's it's really important to regulate people's behavior in online spaces

0:57.8

because people just generally tend to be more aggressive and more horrible

1:01.6

when there is a screen in front of them and you know you're not you're

1:05.2

not there as a person you're there as a name just as a text you know that anonymity sort of gives you the

1:10.8

license to be more horrible to other people.

1:14.0

And I think it's really important to set those rules and say,

1:17.0

no, you're not allowed to say that these things don't happen,

1:22.0

you're not allowed to to undermine or this is a

1:25.6

feminist term gas light I don't know if you're familiar with that but gas lighting

1:30.1

basically means like you know you you say that the person who's

1:34.1

who's expressing the negative sentiments is crazy or like they're overreacting

1:39.3

they're being hysterical which is another word that women often hear being accused of being hysterical.

1:44.4

So you're not allowed to do that to your fellow women when they're expressing pain

1:49.3

just to look after people and give people a safe space.

1:53.0

I think all that you're saying I totally believe in, and it's just that, I don't know

1:58.4

what compels somebody to invalidate another person's experience, the human experience, and I don't get that. It just shows a really low level of empathy.

2:09.0

And it's funny, it's like when it happens to you, then all of a sudden you understand.

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