Do not confuse this with treatment or mental health advice or direction.

Nothing on this podcast is made to supplement or supersede the relationship and direction of your mental health caretakers.

Although David Kozlowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist,

he is not functioning as a certified mental health professional in this environment.

But same applies to any professionals who may appear on the Light the Fight, and I'm David.

And I'm Heidi.

And we're here to talk about things that parents tend to care a little bit about.

It's called their kids.

That's right.

Legally, you have to care about them, or at least pretend that you care about them really good.

Or sometimes they can be taken from you.

I don't think the issue is not caring.

I think it's just the issue of maybe not doing things or saying things that actually

communicate that message in an effective way.

Okay, well, I was just joking.

Get a little bit deep.

So I won't apologize to anyone that's had their kids actually

taken.

I was just a joke.

Sometimes we don't know where to start, so we just start blabble.

I start blabbing.

Next thing you know, I'm like, that wasn't even funny.

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