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024 – Choosing Your Modality – Irrational Thoughts – Building a Website 1 – Dealing with Personal Triggers

Counselling Tutor podcast

Kenneth Kelly

Education

4.8657 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2016

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In episode 24 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly discuss how to choose the modality you will practise. 'Theory with Rory' looks at irrational thoughts, and 'Person-Centred Business' explains how to build a website. Last, the presenters suggest how to deal with personal triggers as a counsellor. Choosing Your Modality In choosing which counselling modality to practise, it is very much a case of 'horses for courses' - the presenters use the analogy of different styles of music, played by different instruments. In his book To Lead an Honorable Life, John Shlien (a student, colleague and friend of Carl Rogers) comments that 'all theory is autobiographical'. In other words, the theory and modality you chose must be meaningful to you and fit with your personal philosophy. Different modalities are right for different clients and presenting issues. Whichever modality you choose, the therapeutic relationship is key, as is thorough training. Irrational Thoughts Rory sets the scene for the theory slot by referring to M Scott Peck's book The Road Less Travelled. The underlying philosophy here is stoicism: an acceptance that life is neither fair nor easy, and that self-control and mental toughness are needed to overcome irrationality. Epictetus, a first-century stoic philosopher, said: 'What really frightens and dismays us is not external events themselves, but the way in which we think about them. It is not things that disturb us, but our interpretation of their significance.' Humans have a tendency to think irrationally when they are feeling emotional. Rory goes through the 11 irrational beliefs put forward by Albert Ellis, the American psychologist who developed rational emotive behaviour therapy (REBT): It is a dire necessity for adult humans to be loved or approved by virtually every significant other person in their community. One absolutely must be competent, adequate and achieving in all important respects or else one is an inadequate, worthless person. People absolutely must act considerately and fairly and they are damnable villains if they do not. They are their bad acts. It is awful and terrible when things are not the way one would very much like them to be. Emotional disturbance is mainly externally caused and people have little or no ability to increase or decrease their dysfunctional feelings and behaviours. If something is or may be dangerous or fearsome, then one should be constantly and excessively concerned about it and should keep dwelling on the possibility of it occurring. One cannot and must not face life's responsibilities and difficulties and it is easier to avoid them. One must be quite dependent on others and need them and you cannot mainly run one's own life. One's past history is an all-important determiner of one's present behaviour and because something once strongly affected one's life, it should indefinitely have a similar effect. Other people's disturbances are horrible and one must feel upset about them. There is invariably a right, precise and perfect solution to human problems and it is awful if this perfect solution is not found. Rory goes on to discuss intrusive thoughts; these are experienced by around one in four people. He gives an example based on driving on the motorway, and thinking about the possibility of purposely crashing. It is important to remember that thinking and acting on that thought are two very different things, and that such thoughts are part of being human and are 'normal' (whatever that might mean). Building a Website 1 In the first of a number of pieces on building a website to promote your counselling business, Ken asks whether you need a website. He believes you do - it is a great place for potential clients to find out about you, what your offer, and your style. He goes on to discuss whether to build the website yourself or to pay a professional to do so.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast.

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The must listen to podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy.

0:10.6

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

0:15.7

Hello and welcome to episode 24 of the counseling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks, and with me as ever,

0:23.2

my friend in the journey of phenomenology, Mr Ken Kelly. How are you today, Ken?

0:28.6

From my phenomenological outlook, it's very good. I felt just lighter today. I don't know what it is.

0:38.9

I've had some work that's been with me for the last few weeks and it seems to have passed by and I feel good. So phenomenologically

0:46.3

sound, I guess. How are you doing, Rory? Your being in the world is sound, which is what

0:52.6

phenomenology is, isn't it?

1:06.9

And I'm absolutely fine, really excited about this week's episode because we're going to be answering so many questions, or at least two questions that's been answered in our very lively Facebook page. And if you want to join us in that very lively Facebook page, just go into Facebook and search

1:11.9

for Counseling Tutor or why not go on onto our website, www.counselingtutor.com. There's two

1:19.6

ls. We spell it in the English way. And you'll find that on the right side, there's a little

1:24.3

button that says Facebook. Click on that and it's a close community knock on the

1:29.0

door we'll let you in and you can join 2,400 other interested souls in the phenomenological

1:36.0

journey of counselling and ask you questions so we've got two really good questions that's come from

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that today haven't we can we have indeed and before I just give a brief overview of what you can expect today, if you're wondering

1:46.1

what phenomenology is and you want to find out a little bit more about that, then you just

1:50.5

need to go to counsellingtutor.com.

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That's our website.

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Click on the podcast tab.

1:55.5

Go back to episode number seven where Rory and I go into quite some depth into phenomenology. And you can even

2:02.1

hear us sing a bit in that. I'm not going to give too much away, but there's a bit of humming and

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