Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast.

The must listen to podcast for students of counseling and psychotherapy.

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

Hello and welcome to episode 24 of the counseling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks, and with me as ever,

my friend in the journey of phenomenology, Mr Ken Kelly. How are you today, Ken?

From my phenomenological outlook, it's very good. I felt just lighter today. I don't know what it is.

I've had some work that's been with me for the last few weeks and it seems to have passed by and I feel good. So phenomenologically

sound, I guess. How are you doing, Rory? Your being in the world is sound, which is what

phenomenology is, isn't it?

And I'm absolutely fine, really excited about this week's episode because we're going to be answering so many questions, or at least two questions that's been answered in our very lively Facebook page. And if you want to join us in that very lively Facebook page, just go into Facebook and search

for Counseling Tutor or why not go on onto our website, www.counselingtutor.com. There's two

ls. We spell it in the English way. And you'll find that on the right side, there's a little

button that says Facebook. Click on that and it's a close community knock on the

door we'll let you in and you can join 2,400 other interested souls in the phenomenological

journey of counselling and ask you questions so we've got two really good questions that's come from

that today haven't we can we have indeed and before I just give a brief overview of what you can expect today, if you're wondering what phenomenology is and you want to find out a little bit more about that, then you just need to go to counsellingtutor.com. That's our website. Click on the podcast tab. Go back to episode number seven where Rory and I go into quite some depth into phenomenology. And you can even

hear us sing a bit in that. I'm not going to give too much away, but there's a bit of humming and

singing in that episode. So go and have a listen to that one, episode seven. But today's episode,

what have we got? Well, as you say, Rory, some great questions that have come in. We're going to

be starting off with that old chestnut, as they call it. It's the debate around the modality of practice and is one modality more effective than

another modality? What modality should you be choosing when you go into your level three? So we're

going to be kicking that around a bit. Theory with Rory, we got something really interesting. I remember hearing this

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