Welcome back to the Wellness Wonderland Radio. I am so excited for today's episode because we have

Heather from the amazing blog for the love of Kale. And Heather is a life coach, an artist, and most of

all a friend to me. And I love and adore her and have so much respect for her and she lives in her own version of the Wellness Wonderland and with her amazing work that she's bringing into the world helping so many people to live in Wonderland like we do.

So I'm so lucky we've been we've become such great friends, Heather,

and this is the first of many collaborations between us, right? Oh yeah, absolutely, sister.

Yeah. So anyways, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I am so stoked because we only recently just became really,

really close and there was really this instant connection between the two of us, and I think this

is going to be great, so thank you. For sure, for sure. We have, like, synergy between us.

Absolutely. Okay, cool. Well, let's jump right in. I have so many things I want to ask you, and I know that my readers slash listeners have so many things that they'll want to ask you too.

But let's start here since I want to talk morning and evening routines because I know we both, I know for both of us tuning in the morning and

the evening are really consistent ways to get started with the spiritual practice.

And I know that we both do this.

So I'm sure ours are similar, but definitely really unique.

So I want to chat a little bit about that.

And so let's start with the morning routine.

So when we were setting up this interview, you shared with me that you're a really early

riser.

So talk to me a little bit about that.

Why is that?

Have you always been that way? And what is it about

the morning that you like so much? Um, so yeah, I'm a really, really early morning rider, like

5.30 a.m. I am up and ready to go, which probably sounds a bit nuts to some people. But I just,

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