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Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Liv Albert

History, Comedy, Arts

4.85.5K Ratings

Overview

The most entertaining and enraging stories from 'Classical' mythology (and, often, ancient history of the wider Mediterranean!) told casually, contemporarily, and (more often than not) sarcastically. The world of Greek mythology and the history of the wider ancient Mediterranean is full of wonder, horror, and utter hilarity. These myths and stories are timeless for a reason, they're just as relevant today as they were 2500+ years ago. With over 700 episodes and counting, we dive deep into the realm of gods, goddesses, heroes, monsters, and everything in between.


Regular episodes every Tuesday, conversations with authors and scholars or readings of ancient epics every Friday. LTAMB: The Oracle Edition has ad-free episodes and so much more. Learn more about the podcast, and Liv's work, including her book Greek Mythology: the Gods, Goddess, and Heroes Handbook at mythsbaby.com.


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916 Episodes

Toxic Boyfriends of Greek Mythology (feat. Historical Homos)

Liv teamed up with Historical Homos to talk all about the toxic boyfriends (or, toxic relationships) of Greek myth. Someone almost always dies, but why and how and what does it mean?!?! Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 June 2025

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 5)

Liv reads The Thebaid, by Statius, translated by JH Mozley. The Argives stop in Nemea to hear the story of Hypsipyle of Lemnos (and, famously, Jason's first wife/victim) who shares the story of the Lemnian women and the time they got rid of all the men. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. I try to provide direct warnings when there is reference to anything with overtly traumatic themes but be aware that Greek mythology regularly features assault, death, and many other potentially triggering events. This episode in particular (along with the next reading of the Thebaid) features the death of a young baby.This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names The three names for the Fates/Moirae are Clotho, Atropos, and Lachesis; the names of the Furies/Erinyes are Tisiphone, Megaera, and Alecto.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 10 June 2025

Conversations: the Divine Rage of Dionysus, a Transgender Translation of Bacchae w/ Emma Pauly

Liv speaks with returning guest, translator and dramaturg Emma Pauly about reshaping and expanding their translation of Bacchae, and transgender, non-binary Dionysus. Find more from Emma here including a much earlier version of their translation of Bacchae here. This is the work by Cameron Awkward-Rich referenced. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 June 2025

The Timelessly Trans Tale of Caeneus, ft. Stephanie McCarter and Joe Watson

Happy Pride! This episode is a combination of three past episodes featuring the invulnerable and AFAB hero, Caeneus. Featuring this conversation with Stephanie McCarter, translator of Ovid's Metamorphoses, this episode from 2023, and this conversation with Joe Watson, author of the article used in 2023 and linked below! Now more than ever we should remember (and have evidence!) that being trans and seeking gender affirmation has always existed... Hate the Patriarchy, love trans people!Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Ovid's Metamorphoses, translated by Stephanie McCarter (entries and end notes); "Reframing Iphis and Caeneus: Trans Narratives and Socio-Linguistic Gendering in Ovid’s Metamorphoses" by J. L. Watson.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 June 2025

Conversations: Fulvia, the Woman Who Broke All the Rules in Ancient Rome w/ Dr Jane Draycott

Liv speaks with historian Dr Jane Draycott about Fulvia of ancient Rome, a woman at the centre of the fall of the Roman Republic... Unsurprisingly the conversation became something wider, looking at ancient women more broadly. Plus, we rant about the patriarchy, because it deserves it. Find more about Jane's new book Fulvia: the Woman Who Broke All the Rules in Ancient Rome and Jane's work more broadly. For reference, this episode was recorded at the end of April 2025.Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 May 2025

Ancient History Fangirl: How an Empire Ends, Rome's Gothic Immigrants

An episode of Ancient History Fangirl. One that I, Liv, really want you all to hear. This story isn’t just about Goths that lived outside Rome. It’s also about the Goths that lived inside the Empire—as everything from slaves to soldiers to free citizens. How they were treated within that empire fueled and fed the wheel of the Migration era. Hatred of immigrants played a major role in Migration-Era conflicts–in ways scarily similar to events today. Get the show notes here. Listen to all the episode on How An Empire Ends via this Spotify playlist. Find more from Ancient History Fangirl here. Find more information on Jenny's novel which is featured at the end (and is an amazing romance novel featuring the dying Roman Empire as the Big Bad).Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyAttributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 27 May 2025

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 4)

Liv reads The Thebaid, by Statius, translated by JH Mozley. The Argives, with Polyneices, prepare to go to war with Thebes. The Thebans ask Tiresias for help and a drought is sent to slow the Argives as they move through Nemea. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyThis is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names The three names for the Fates/Moirae are Clotho, Atropos, and Lachesis; the names of the Furies/Erinyes are Tisiphone, Megaera, and Alecto.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 23 May 2025

The Partial Historians: Augustus' Mausoleum with Dr Victoria Austen

Introducing the Partial Historians, an Ancient Roman History Podcast, part of the Memory Collective Podcast Network! This episode originally aired on the PH feed in spring 2024. Dr Rad and Dr G speak with Dr Victoria Austen (also a friend of LTAMB!) about Augustus' Mausoleum in Rome. And, not to worry, there are plenty of jabs at Augustus, as is only right. Find more from the Partial Historians here.Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. The Partial Historian's music is by Bettina Joy de Guzman. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2025

A Long & Storied (Mythical) Tale of Tyranny, Revisiting Aeschylus' Prometheus Bound

This three part series originally aired in 2021. Prometheus gave humanity fire, but he paid the price. Prometheus is brought to his punishment and meets the chorus of Oceanids. The Prometheus Bound is an examination of tyranny and the rule of Zeus, king of the gods. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: The Prometheus Bound (maybe) by Aeschylus: translations by Herbert Weir Smyth, James Romm, and George Theodoridis. All quotations from the Weir Smyth unless otherwise noted. Special thanks to Ash Strain for their help researching this episode! Follow Ash on Twitter: @ashstrain_.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 May 2025

Hermes Historia: AUT-- Wait, What Did He Say?! Modern Reception of Julius Caesar

In today's Hermes Historia special episode Michaela Pangowish breaks down the phrase 'AUT CAESAR AUT NIHIL' and the way we understand Julius Caesar today. Caesars, dictators, billionaire oligarchies are bad, actually. For more Hermes Historia episodes (typically co-hosted by Liv!) sign up for LTAMB's ad-free Oracle Edition on Patreon. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2025

Conversations: How the Historical Sausage Gets Made, Roman Colonization of North Africa w/ Matthew McCarty

Liv and Michaela speak with Roman archaeologist Matthew McCarty about Rome's colonization of North Africa and how that act of settler colonialism had ripple effects in the later French colonization. Find more from Matthew here. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 9 May 2025

LIVE in London! Let's Talk About Medusa, Baby! w/ Cosi Carnegie

For the first time ever, Liv hosted a LIVE ticketed event at The Common Press bookstore in London, UK, alongside Cosi Carnegie (of Cosi's Odyssey). They discuss Medusa, in all her forms, live in conversation. If you're interested in seeing Liv speak live, let us know! Watch the video version here! Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2025

Conversations: Old Tales, New Media, The EPIC (!!) Takeover w/ Christie Vogler, Joe Goodkin, and Joel Christensen (Part 2)

Finally, the second half of Christie Vogler's EPIC takeover episode. Christie speaks with Homerist Joel Christensen and modern Homeric bard Joe Goodkin about the intricacies of EPIC, modern musicals as reception, and all their favourite moments from EPIC The Musical! If you're keen for more EPIC talk listen to the Movies We Dig episode Christie mentions!Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 2 May 2025

Muse, Sing the Songs of Persephone's Women... Dead Women of the Odyssey

Examining the women of the Underworld in Homer's Odyssey (and contextualizing last Friday's episode a little further...) This coming Friday: part two of the EPIC takeover that fully delves into its musical depths. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Selections read from the Odyssey, translated by AT Murray.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 29 April 2025

Odysseus, Man or Monster? The EPIC (!!) Takeover w/ Christie Vogler

Past guest and host of Movies We Dig, Christie Vogler takes over the podcast to guide Liv through EPIC The Musical... Today Liv and Christie listen to No Longer You from EPIC and set the stage for next week's full takeover episode where Christie and guests will go over the musical in detail. Find more from Christie on the Movies We Dig podcast, part of the Memory Collective Podcast Network!Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 25 April 2025

Movies We Dig: KAOS (live at CAMWS w/ Amy Pistone)

Introducing Movies We Dig, the podcast about film, antiquity and everything in between, part of the Memory Collective Podcast Network! This episode was recorded live at the annual meeting of the Classical Association of the Midwest and South to talk about the 2024 Netflix show, KAOS. Filling in for Colin as co-host is fan favorite (and regular guest of LTAMB!) Amy Pistone. To learn more about Amy and her work, be sure visit her website. Find more Movies We Dig wherever you're listening to this (and be sure to check out Liv's episodes on BBC's Atlantis mini-series and Starz Spartacus!).Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. MWD Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/zoo/imagine Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

Conversations: Sing, Muse, of a Woman... Mythica, Penelope's Bones, w/ Emily Hauser

Once again Liv is joined by the wonderful Emily Hauser, this time for the episode that started it all, a conversation about Mythica (Penelope's Bones in the US and Canada), a look at the women of Homer and through them, women of the Bronze Age. Find Mythica or Penelope's Bones wherever you get books (ideally, not Amazon). Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 April 2025

Sweetbitter: Women in the Bible 1 Thessalonians 5:21

(Re)introducing season 3 of Sweetbitter: Women & LTBTQIA History, part of the Memory Collective Podcast Network! This season Leesa, Ellie, and Alyse dive into the not at all controversial world of women and queer history of... the Bible, and Christianity. Submit your question for the next LTAMB Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Find more episode of Sweetbitter wherever you get your podcasts, or sweetbitterpodcast.com1 Thessalonians 5:21 But test them all; hold on to what is good Welcome to season 3! Join us for a quick introduction to Christianity and the Bible. Thank you to our guests this week, Brian Murphy, Father Shannon Kearns, Rev. Jakob Hero-Shaw, Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart, Rev. Florentino Cordova and Pastor Dawn Bennett.  As always, you can find us on Bluesky and Instagram at @sweetbitterpod. You can support us on Patreon at patreon.com/sweetbitter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 3)

Liv reads The Thebaid, by Statius, translated by JH Mozley. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyThis is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 April 2025

Ancient History Fangirl's Boudicca 1: the Seeds of Rebellion

Liv's off to the UK and realized she's never covered Boudicca! Presenting episode 1 of Ancient History Fangirl's 2021 series on Britain's warrior queen. The story of Boudicca’s revolt is as epic as you can get. It’s got murder and pillage, Romans behaving badly, cities on fire, and a layer of destruction that was scorched into the earth. But it's also the story of a people on a precipice of great change.Who was Boudicca? Who was this iron-age warrior queen who stood up to the Romans—and whose name was so revered and feared that stories of her are still being spun almost 2,000 years later? In this episode, we’re going to find out. Here's a Spotify playlist featuring all of AHFG's episodes on Boudicca and Roman Britain.Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

Conversations: When Science Meets Storytelling, Storylife w/ Joel Christensen

Liv is joined by our favourite Homerist to talk narrative, virality, and how epics can help us understand the mess we're in. Find more about Storylife here. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 4 April 2025

RE-AIR: Lightening the Mood With a Pegasus Special

Today's episode is a re-airing of a couple of Liv's favourite Pegasus-related episodes, because it's time for something light and silly. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Sources are referenced in the original episode, Mini Myth: Kind, Noble Theseus, His Herd of Pegasi & the Defeat of the Kraken (April 2021), and All I Really Want Is To Talk About the Fire-Breathing Goat… Bellerophon, Pegasus, and the Chimera (July 2023). [Spoilers: the first one has no sources because it's all a bad joke!].Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

Conversations: It Turns Out Women Are People, Women's Collective Memory w/ Emily Hauser

Liv speaks with Emily Hauser about... Women. Ancient and mythological women, the ways they shared stories, and collective memory. Learn more about the Memory Collective. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 28 March 2025

SPECIAL! Selections from Jenny Williamson's Enemy of My Dreams Audiobook

In today's special episode we're sharing selections from Enemy of My Dreams by Ancient History Fangirl's Jenny Williamson, narrated by Lisa Flanagan, published by Canary Street Press. Shared with permission of the Author and publisher. Learn more here.Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

Conversations: Powerful or Powerless, Caring or Careless? The Goddess Thetis w/ Maciej Paprocki

Liv speaks with returning guest Dr Maciej Paprocki about the goddess Thetis, a goddess with seemingly immense but mysterious power, and a woman who has enough agency in her life that she becomes tragically unique. Learn more about the Staying Power of Thetis. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 21 March 2025

The Forgotten Goddess of Memory, Mnemosyne & All She Gave Us

Introducing Mnemosyne // the Memory Collective, Liv looks at the goddess of memory, and memory itself. Learn more about the Memory Collective here.Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

Conversations: Women's Patience/Patients & Hippocratic Medicine w/ Dr Christie Vogler (Part 2)

TW! Horrors of Women's/Female Health. Liv speaks with Dr Christie Vogler about the long and storied and utterly infuriating ancient history of women's medicine in the West. Check out Christie's podcast, Movies We Dig, now part of the Memory Collective podcast network! Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyRecommended reading and sources: Cleghorn, Elinor. 2022. Unwell Women: A Journey Through Medicine and Myth in a Man-made World; Cooper Owens, Deirdre. 2018. Medical Bondage: Race, Gender, and the Origins of American Gynecology; Draycott, Jane. 2021. Roman Domestic Medical Practice in Central Italy: From the Middle Republic to the Early Empire; Joshel, Sandra R. 1992. Work, Identity, and Legal Status at Rome: A Study of the Occupational Inscriptions; Mulder, Tara. 2016. “The Hippocratic Oath in Roe v. Wade | by Tara Mulder.” EIDOLON; Nutton, Vivian. 2013. Ancient Medicine; Ripat, Pauline. 2016. “Roman Women, Wise Women, and Witches.”; “Roe v. Wade | 410 U.S. 113 (1973).”; Stanley Spaeth, Barbette. 2014. “From Goddess to Hag: The Greek and the Roman Witch in Classical Literature.” In Daughters of Hecate: Women and Magic in the Ancient World, edited by Kimberly B. Stratton and Dayna S. Kalleres; Upson-Saia, Kristi, Heidi Marx, and Jared Secord. 2023. Medicine, Health, and Healing in the Ancient Mediterranean (500 BCE–600 CE): A Sourcebook; Woods, Robert. 2007. “Ancient and Early Modern Mortality: Experience and Understanding.” The Economic History Review 60.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 14 March 2025

Women's Patience/Patients & Hippocratic Medicine w/ Dr Christie Vogler (Part 2)

TW! Horrors of Women's/Female Health. Liv speaks with Dr Christie Vogler about the long and storied and utterly infuriating ancient history of women's medicine in the West. Check out Christie's podcast, Movies We Dig, now part of the Memory Collective podcast network! Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyRecommended reading and sources: Cleghorn, Elinor. 2022. Unwell Women: A Journey Through Medicine and Myth in a Man-made World; Cooper Owens, Deirdre. 2018. Medical Bondage: Race, Gender, and the Origins of American Gynecology; Draycott, Jane. 2021. Roman Domestic Medical Practice in Central Italy: From the Middle Republic to the Early Empire; Joshel, Sandra R. 1992. Work, Identity, and Legal Status at Rome: A Study of the Occupational Inscriptions; Mulder, Tara. 2016. “The Hippocratic Oath in Roe v. Wade | by Tara Mulder.” EIDOLON; Nutton, Vivian. 2013. Ancient Medicine; Ripat, Pauline. 2016. “Roman Women, Wise Women, and Witches.”; “Roe v. Wade | 410 U.S. 113 (1973).”; Stanley Spaeth, Barbette. 2014. “From Goddess to Hag: The Greek and the Roman Witch in Classical Literature.” In Daughters of Hecate: Women and Magic in the Ancient World, edited by Kimberly B. Stratton and Dayna S. Kalleres; Upson-Saia, Kristi, Heidi Marx, and Jared Secord. 2023. Medicine, Health, and Healing in the Ancient Mediterranean (500 BCE–600 CE): A Sourcebook; Woods, Robert. 2007. “Ancient and Early Modern Mortality: Experience and Understanding.” The Economic History Review 60.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 14 March 2025

The Myth of Aspasia, Woman, Politician, Philosopher, Wh*re

Aspasia was an intelligent, independent and influential woman at the heart of Classical Athenian politics. She was also a sex worker. This is the instagram reel this episode is 'responding' to. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby, and learn more about the Memory Collective.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Prisoner of History: Aspasia of Miletus and her Biographical Tradition by Madeleine Mary Henry; "Wise and Devoted or Shrewd and Shameless? The True Face of Aspasia of Miletus" by Agata Ciempiel from Scripta Classica.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025

Conversations: Othering Women in the Origins of Western Medicine w/ Dr Christie Vogler (Part 1)

Liv speaks with Dr Christie Vogler about the long and storied and utterly infuriating ancient history of women's medicine in the West. The video clips referenced: Competing Medical Practices in Domina: Livia & Augustus's story in 'Domina' - Part 21; Medical Pluralism on HBO’s Rome: Rome Pullo has surgery HD; and if you want to see the transition to modern medicine in the late 19th century, check out the series The Artful Dodger: The Artful Dodger | Official Trailer | Hulu. And check out Christie's podcast, Movies We Dig, soon to be joining the newly established Memory Collective podcast network!Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 7 March 2025

The Subtle Art of Women's Work, Arachne the Weaver

Arachne wasn't just a talented weaver and artist, she was a woman who dared to become more than her feminine station allowed. Breaking down the 'womanly arts', weaving as a form of independence and the threat that posed to the patriarchal order. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby. Sign up for the newsletter to keep up to date with everything, including the official launch of Mnemosyne: the Memory Collective.CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Sources: Ovid's Metamorphoses, translated by Stephanie McCarter. Read with permission of the publisher.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 2)

Liv reads Statius' Thebaid, book 2, translated by JH Mozley. The ghost of Laius travels from the Underworld; Polynices and Tydeus return to Thebes and threaten the king Eteocles. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyThis is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 28 February 2025

Why Did Clytemnestra Kill Cassandra, Another Q&A (Part 2)

The seminar referenced is In the Ruins of History: A CAWS/#EOTalks Roundtable in Solidarity with Palestine. Find out more about Liv's event/live podcast recording in London, April 15th, alongside Cosi Carnegie of Cosi's Odyssey. Submit to the next Q&A episode at mythsbaby.com/questions. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025

Conversation: Singing the Songs of Sumer, the Mesopotamian Mythology of Ancient Iraq w/ Alex W

Liv is joined by Alex W to discuss Sumerian mythology and some broader history of Mesopotamia/Ancient Iraq. Learn more from Alex vis his podcast, the Drumbeat Forever After, here. As mentioned in the episode, Aseel Jad El-Haq is 28, the youngest of seven sisters. She grew up in Khan Younis, the daughter of a successful clothing company owner, going to the gym and visiting the beach with her friends and riding a horse named Beautiful (in Arabic). Her house and car were completely destroyed, the horse was killed, she's had to relocate over 20 times since the war began, and she's currently staying with her father (whose medical situation is serious), her mother (who has diabetes and needs insulin), one of her sisters, and that sister's young children. If you can help Aseel and her family, please do. Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 21 February 2025

Angry Women Speaking Truth to Power; a Q&A Episode

Liv answers listener questions about Hera's attempted coup, jewellery, and more... Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

Angry Women Speaking Truth to Power; a Q&A Episode (Part 1)

Liv answers listener questions about Hera's attempted coup, jewellery, and more... Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

RE-AIR: Conversations: When Ovid Invented Pick-up Artistry, the Ars Amatoria w/ Imogen Briscoe

This episode originally aired in February 2024. Liv is joined by Imogen Briscoe to talk Ovid's Ars Amatoria, the Art of Love, aka the first pick up artist playbook. Did Ovid create the 2000 years of misogyny we've had since? Nope, but he sure made it worse with this one! Read more from Imogen on Twitter and at the Ekklesia Magazine. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content!CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 14 February 2025

Conversations: To Palestine, With Love... Ancient & Biblical History of the Levant w/ Dr Chance Bonar

Liv speaks with ancient and biblical scholar Chance Bonar about the history of Palestine and the ancient Levant. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbabyCW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.Further reading: Everyday Orientalism's Palestine primer; Rashid Khalidi's Hundred Years War on Palestine.Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 7 February 2025

AHFG Book Club: Jenny Williamson's Enemy of My Dreams

In a very special episode, Liv and Genn McMenemy of Ancient History Fangirl interview debut author Jenny Williamson. Find Enemy of My Dreams wherever you get your books. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby.  CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 4 February 2025

AD FREE: Conversations: A Long and Storied History of Sparta, Modern Misuse & Misconception w/ Stephen Hodkinson

This episode originally aired in January 2023. (Note: we'll return to new episodes very soon, there's been some behind the scenes changes and loads of recordings we're perfecting, stay tuned!) Liv speaks with Stephen Hodkinson, expert in all things Sparta. They discuss Sparta throughout history including its use in politics from the founding of the USA to Nazi Germany to modern day misuses of Spartan culture and history. Read more about Sparta and the Capitol insurrection (and so much more Sparta content!) here. Read the book, Classical Controversies, for free here. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 31 January 2025

RE-AIR: Conversations: A Long and Storied History of Sparta, Modern Misuse & Misconception w/ Stephen Hodkinson

This episode originally aired in January 2023. (Note: we'll return to new episodes very soon, there's been some behind the scenes changes and loads of recordings we're perfecting, stay tuned!) Liv speaks with Stephen Hodkinson, expert in all things Sparta. They discuss Sparta throughout history including its use in politics from the founding of the USA to Nazi Germany to modern day misuses of Spartan culture and history. Read more about Sparta and the Capitol insurrection (and so much more Sparta content!) here. Read the book, Classical Controversies, for free here. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 31 January 2025

Hermes Historia: Giorgos the Oikist, Colonization in Greek Antiquity

Michaela teaches Liv about 6th century Greek colonization for not at all relevant reasons. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Greek Colonisation: An Account of Greek Colonies and Other Settlements Overseas Vol. 1 and 2, edited by Gocha R. Tsetskhladze; Colony and Mother City in Ancient Greece by A. J. Graham. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 30 January 2025

RE-AIR: Queering the Classical World w/ Yentl Love (the Queer Classicist)

This episode originally aired in June 2023. Liv speaks with PhD student Yentl Love about queerness in the ancient world and Greek mythology, about classical reception in Lil Nas X, and so much more. Follow Yentl (the Queer Classicist) on Twitter, and learn more on her site. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 28 January 2025

RE-AIR: Very Extravagant Rich People, Ancient Sparta & The Spartan Mirage (Part Two)

This episode originally aired in January 2023 as part of the research series on ancient Sparta. We're talking all things Spartan culture: all the things made them Spartan, set them apart from the rest of the Greek world. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Constitution of the Lacedaimonians by Xenophon, translated by Xenophon E. C. Marchant and G. W. Bowersock; Spartan Women by Sarah B. Pomeroy; The Public School of Sparta by T. Rutherford Harley; Spartan Education in the Classical Period by Nicolas Richer. Bad Ancient articles of interest: Spartan infanticide myth, Molon Labe, the 300 at Thermopylae. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 24 January 2025

What Does it Meant to Rebel? (Ancient) Resistance to Imperial Violence

Revisiting the story of Europa of Tyre alongside the true story of the siege of Milos. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Hesiod's Catalogue of Women, translated by HG Evelyn-White; Nonnus' Dionysiaca translated by WHD Rouse; Reading from Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War, translated by Richard Crawley. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2025

What Does it Mean to Rebel? (Ancient) Resistance to Imperial Violence

Revisiting the story of Europa of Tyre alongside the true story of the siege of Milos. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Hesiod's Catalogue of Women, translated by HG Evelyn-White; Nonnus' Dionysiaca translated by WHD Rouse; Reading from Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War, translated by Richard Crawley. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2025

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 1)

Liv reads book one of Statius' Thebaid, translated by JH Mozley. Oedipus looks back on the mess that was his family. His son Polynices is refused his share of the Theban throne and travels to Argos where he meets the king and hero Tydeus. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names  Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 17 January 2025

Hermes Historia: Homer, have you heard of him? Pretty chill dude

On today's Hermes Historia Michaela tells Liv the Homeric origins of her favourite messed up ancient family... For future episodes of Hermes Historia (aside from a few one offs we might release now and then!) subscribe to the podcast's Patreon. The Oracle Edition features AD-FREE episodes, Hermes Historia, and so much more! patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Brethlein, J. 2010. “From ‘Imperishable Glory’ to History: The Iliad and the Trojan War.” In Epic and History, edited by D. Konstans and K. A. Raaflaub, 122-144. Malden: Wiley-Blackwell. A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology by William Smith. Homer the Preclassic by Gregory Nagy Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 16 January 2025

Behind Every ‘Great’ Man… Metis, Thetis, and the Power of Prophecy

The stories of Zeus and two goddesses defined by prophecies and patriarchy. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Hesiod's Theogony, translated by HG Evelyn-White; Pindar's Isthmian Ode 8, translated by Diane Arnson Svarlien; Nemean Ode 4 from Theoi.com; Maciej Paprocki's "The Rape and Binding of Thetis in Its Mythological Context" from The Staying Power of Thetis. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 14 January 2025

Conversations: They Weren't Always F***able, the History of Sirens & Harpies w/ Dr Ryan Denson

Liv speaks with returning guest, the Sea Monster Guy Ryan Denson, about the history and transformation of Sirens and Harpies. Find more from Ryan on Twitter/X. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcribed - Published: 10 January 2025

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