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🗓️ 21 November 2025
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Liv and Michaela speak with Dan-el Padilla Peralta about his new book Classicism and Other Phobias, breaking down the 'Founders of Western Civilization' myth, the field of 'Classics', and the racialized mess its often made. Find more about the book, and the article Racing the Classics. Submit your question for the next Q&A via email or a voice note. Get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby
CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. I try to provide direct warnings when there is reference to anything with overtly traumatic themes but be aware that Greek mythology regularly features assault, death, and many other potentially triggering events.
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| 1:16.7 | Back with another conversation episode. |
| 1:20.4 | I told you all that we'd been recording these for a while, and I was not lying. |
| 1:22.6 | Okay, okay. |
| 1:26.8 | So firstly, most importantly, well, not maybe most importantly, but firstly, Michaela is a large part of this episode, which I'm so thrilled with. |
| 1:31.4 | Whenever the time zones permit, we are trying to get her included because I'm really interested to have like more voices involved. |
| 1:40.0 | And this episode specifically, okay, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be a little vulnerable |
| 1:47.0 | with you all right now and just say that I, so we heard of this episode a couple of months ago now |
| 1:52.6 | and I have been so excited for you all to hear about it, but I also have been like, so we spoke. Let's get, let's get right to it because this episode is so good |
| 2:05.0 | and it's really, the issues are all on me. Today's episode is with Dr. Dan Al-Padilla Peralta, |
| 2:12.5 | whose work I have been familiar with since I became a part of like the academic realm in classics |
| 2:20.9 | in like any way. And he's kind of been on my list of like, oh my God, I would love to have a |
| 2:28.7 | conversation, but I also like feel so unprepared because so much of the work that I have seen Danelle working on is |
| 2:41.0 | based in like the really racialized aspects of classics, like the really problematic stuff around |
| 2:49.5 | how not not necessarily like the ancient world itself, but that too, |
| 2:55.8 | but in larger part like the ways that the last 100, 200, 300 years have impacted how we see |
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