If you're still at a $20, which you're not, I'm guessing, I'm speculating you're higher than that.

But let's say you can certainly are 20 times 220,000 customers.

You're north of a $40 million run rate today.

You raise it over a 42.

Oh, hey, man, we're, we're north of that.

Will you break 50 million this year?

Run rate?

I'm not saying.

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