Sell it.

In that weird perineum between the actual US election and the declaring of the

US election, I'm actually speaking remotely to Josh Dean a real American.

Josh is a journalist, author and a podcast host in the past he's hosted the clearing,

but currently he's hosting a podcast I am

completely obsessed with which is chameleon Hollywood con queen. Hi Josh

hello okay I both want to know absolutely Hi Josh. Hello. Okay.

I both want to know absolutely everything about Chameleon Hollywood Con Queen and nothing because I haven't,

because I'm like five episodes in and I'm obsessed.

Can you just give a little bit of a summary for people?

So, Camelian is the story of this incredible calm that's been going on. We think at least five... The I don't want to give too much away from the show for people who haven't listened, but someone or some group has been

orchestrating this incredible scam and basically a certain level of Hollywood person, we call it below the line.

So it's sort of lower level makeup artists and security guards and stuntmen, are lured into

flying to Indonesia for what they think is the job of a lifetime.

It's a huge movie or a major TV show that's filming there and you're going to get the job that's

several levels above the job that you're typically going to get if you're working at all it's

going to change your life it's going to be amazing they get to Indonesia and

realize it's all a scam but not after not until for several days they've been sort of jerked around and money's been taken for fees and drivers and various guides.

And you'd think it's the kind of thing that would work once or twice or that almost no one would fall for this.

We believe more than a thousand people have flown to Jakarta, Indonesia,

at the behest of what they think is,

and this is the part of it that's really interesting, I mean there's so much about it.

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