You're on Your Own: MAHA Dismantles Public Health / Rob Wallace & Rita Valenti

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🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Rob Wallace and Rita Valenti join us to discuss their recent articles at Truthout that cover the Trump administration's dismantling of public health in the United States. These include "Trump Is Trying to Dismantle Public Health — and Replace It With a Police State," "'Make America Healthy Again' Aims to Make Public Health Your Responsibility," and "Labor Was Crucial in Building Public Health Institutions Trump Wants to Destroy." "This Day in Rotten History" from Renaldo Migaldi follows the interview. Check out Rob and Rita's writing here: https://truthout.org/articles/trump-is-trying-to-dismantle-public-health-and-replace-it-with-a-police-state/ here: https://truthout.org/articles/make-america-healthy-again-aims-to-make-public-health-your-responsibility/ and here: https://truthout.org/articles/labor-was-crucial-in-building-public-health-institutions-trump-wants-to-destroy/ Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell Please rate and review This Is Hell! wherever you get your podcasts. It really helps the show ascend the algorithm to reach new listeners.

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0:00.0	Take a gap
0:04.0	The water
0:06.0	Take a jack Take a This is Making back! This is Hell.
0:46.3	Manufacturing dissent since 1996.
0:49.8	This is hell.
0:52.6	Earlier this week, we came back from a two-week break by speaking with climate
0:56.3	justice organizer and speaker Michaela Loach, author of the award winning, It's Not That
1:02.0	Radical, Climate Action to Transform Our World, which has just been released by Haymarket Books
1:07.1	here in the States. Reading Michaela's inspiring work.
1:11.9	Inspired, a Patreon rant I did just before we left for our break.
1:16.4	A rant on political imagination.
1:19.1	Why it is so difficult to have one in our current political and media environment.
1:23.6	And I wondered if we were allowed the time and space to let our imagination run wild,
1:28.3	what that political imagination might look like.
1:33.3	That is to say, hell yes, Michaela's work is inspiring, and that's because it shows the link, the connections, the intersections,
1:39.3	between climate change, and the climate change movement movement and, well, everything.
1:45.8	Today's conversation, while on the same theme, considers that interconnectedness when it comes to climate change,
1:52.4	but also public health, and there's likely no greater public threat in our time than climate change when it comes to
2:03.2	our public health. Although historically, it's been infectious disease and the right
2:09.1	the Republican Party, the Trump administration, and some Democrats are not interested in
2:14.8	doing anything about either public health or climate change.
2:21.1	By addressing public health, our guests argue we can provide alternatives and solutions
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