There's so much guilt associated with truth.

But when you have the courage from love to share what's true,

my friend Mark Grove says liberation is then a two-way street.

It's never a one-way street.

And I don't know what the future holds, like, who I'll meet, if we'll repair.

I don't know.

But what I do know is who I am today is a version of me that is so much more available

and connected and willing to be, to be in the truth versus the discomfort of trying to manage all the reactions people could

have to the truth, including my own and therefore wanting to bury it, which I think is,

it's terrible because I think a lot of people live with a lot of that.

Hey guys, it's Kathy Heller. Welcome back to Everything is Energy. Guess what? This is the first time

that I'm recording in my house. I love this. It's so much fun. I was inspired by Chloe in Wonderland because she sits on

this like wraparound couch. And I thought, I love when things get to be easy, right? I feel like as

human beings were so married to the idea that things have to be hard. Why? Why can't you just

be sitting barefoot, cross-legged on your couch with somebody that you love and having the best

conversation. Yes, sign me up. Okay, so this is historic. First time we're doing this. And I'm really

excited because my friend and coach and colleague Hope Versal is here. Did I pronounce your last

name correctly? Forsell. Let me say that again. We can edit that. My friend and coach and colleague, Hope Firstell, is here. Can you say Hope Letts for cell? Lutz Lutz L. Let's, Lut. Let me say that again. And I'm so happy to do this because today my friend, coach, and colleague, Hope Lutz, Versel is here. And she's so cute. And really, she's brought so much into

my world in the last few months of having these deep, deep conversations with her. She is a coach

that meets men and women at phases in their life where they are ready to make the changes that

they know they've needed to make for a long time.

She specializes in relationships.

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