Welcome to the Runners Connect, Run to the Top Podcast, where it's all about learning from the best minds in the sport

so you can train smarter, stay healthy, and run faster now.

And now your host, Tina Muir.

Hello, this is Tina Muir.

Welcome to the Ranners Connect, Run to the Top Podcast.

We all have to run on our own sometimes, those moments where you can be

alone with your thoughts, let your mind run wild, and you can just think about

whatever you want. It's always fascinating to reflect on the places your mind goes and what you end up thinking about.

Do you ever find that you come up with a crazy idea, something that you would like to challenge yourself to do,

but then you swat it away.

Nah, I could never do that.

What a silly idea you think to yourself.

But what if you didn't swap that idea away?

What if you added that to a list?

A list that you work your way through and push yourself in new ways as often as you can?

That is what my guest today is known for. He takes inspiration and ideas from all over the running world and tries out all kinds of challenges.

We have some exciting news for you about that towards the end. Stay tuned.

Before you start thinking so, my guess was not an all-star in college.

He has not broken four in the mile, and when he raced this first marathon,

he was in the back corrals, wondering if he would ever make it across the start line

to actually begin the race.

My guest today is real proof that you will never know unless you try.

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