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🗓️ 17 January 2025
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0:28 Bob and Paul battle for audience sympathy 4:29 Canada as 51st state: y’eh or n’eh? 15:09 How Trump-y is Canada’s likely next leader? 19:45 The humiliation theory of American politics 27:33 Trump, Elon, and the two paths to bullying 35:59 Facebook’s free speech about-face 39:24 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded January 16, 2025.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
0:28.9 | Hello, Paul Bloom of the Small Potatoes newsletter Empire. |
0:34.2 | This is Robert Wright from the Non-Zero Newsletter Podcast Empire. How are you doing up in the 51st State? |
0:41.0 | I have been better. How are you doing, Bob? I'm doing okay. Why have you been better, Paul? What's gone on? I'm glad you asked. I have a variety of complaints, which maybe we could just focus on more in the paid |
0:50.9 | section of our conversation. No, no, no, I think our entire audience deserves |
0:55.4 | to hear about your suffering. What's up? I cracked the tooth a few days ago. So in an hour, |
1:01.4 | I'm off to get a tooth extraction. And I'm living off various pain pills. I'm alternating |
1:07.9 | between Tylen on ibupopin, as one does. |
1:18.7 | My Uber account two days ago was hacked so that, and I got my money. |
1:24.7 | So I woke up to an email saying that I hope I enjoyed my $306 ride in Australia. |
1:27.6 | And I did you? |
1:29.1 | And I did not. |
1:32.0 | I got my money back, but I kept back onto my account. |
1:37.7 | And when I was downstairs getting myself a cup of coffee in preparation for our conversation in this Airbnb staying there was a distinct smell of gas from the stove. |
1:43.9 | And when you go on, so my wife and I were talking, we both smelled it. And when you go online, they say, leave the house immediately. You're going to die. So, you didn't die. I have to talk to you. So I'm going to take my chances. There's a chance that you'll just like, your screen will go blank. I don't into flame. It would be, it would go viral for you. It would be the best thing that ever happened to you, actually. This would be like a New York Times front page, you know, just explode on screen. Or I think more likely it would just cause increasing intellectual deficits. So I'm just going to be gibbering and grueling by the end of this. |
2:18.1 | Anyway, how are you? |
2:19.3 | Well, Paul, listen, not, it's not in my nature to engage in like duels for sympathy or anything. |
2:26.9 | But if we could just start with a dental thing, Paul, tell me, what does this look like to you? |
2:33.0 | Take a look at that. |
2:33.9 | What does that look like to you, buddy? |
2:35.7 | Is it dental related? |
2:36.9 | Is it a tooth? |
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