Is the AI “Revolution” Overblown? (Robert Wright & Timothy B. Lee)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

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🗓️ 15 January 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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0:28 Tim’s got a new podcast, and NonZero is hiring 3:31 Is large language model progress reaching a plateau? 15:20 Some shortcomings of AI today 25:42 Human cognition compared to AI 33:27 The impressive progress of "multimodal" AI 41:33 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Timothy B. Lee (Full Stack Economics, Understanding AI). Recorded January 14, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:27.4	Hi, Tim.
0:31.0	Hi, Bob.
0:32.0	How you doing?
0:33.0	I'm doing great.
0:34.4	Yeah, I'm here in wintery, Washington, D.C., but everything's good.
0:42.3	Well, let me introduce this. I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the non-zero newsletter.
0:45.6	This is the non-zero podcast. You're Timothy B. Lee, publisher of the highly regarded AI
0:51.9	newsletter, Understanding AI, and also now you're doing
0:54.7	podcasts up yourself, so you're like a rival? Yeah, I guess we're competitors now. I just,
1:00.2	this week actually, it's January 14th and just started publishing AI Summer, which is a
1:07.4	newsletter about AI technology and policy.
1:14.5	And it's a co-hosted interview show with Dean Ball,
1:17.4	who is a policy expert at the Mercado Center.
1:18.6	Okay, great.
1:19.7	Well, I'll be checking it out.
1:23.9	I'm sure it'll skyrocket to the top of my list of podcasts right up there with AI podcasts, right up there with Cognitive Revolution and others.
1:29.3	As long as we're doing self-promotion, which by the way, that was Tim, you were doing
1:34.4	self-promotion. I'm going to do some. As I said, this is the non-zero podcast associated
1:41.1	with non-zero newsletter. We're actually doing some hiring at the newsletter slash podcast.
1:48.0	We're hiring, first of all, a journalist.
1:50.7	I want to say print journalists,
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