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The Rich Roll Podcast

World Champion John John Florence On The Mindset of Elite Sport, Walking Away At His Peak & Why True Mastery Begins With Surrender

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

John John Florence is a three-time World Surf League Champion and one of the most naturally gifted surfers of his generation. This conversation explores John John's decision to step away from competition at his peak. We discuss his evolution from forcing outcomes to allowing flow, why mastery begins with surrendering control, and transforming pressure into presence. We delve into why external achievements can't heal internal wounds and his choice to prioritize fatherhood over fame. Through it all, John John shares the profound life lessons the ocean has taught him. This is surfing as spiritual practice. And John John is the perfect guide. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: LMNT: Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase 👉 http://www.drinkLMNT.com/richroll                                                               Momentous: Save 35% OFF your first subscription order 👉http://www.livemomentous.com/richroll   AG1: Get a FREE AG1 "Morning Person" hat, welcome kit, and more! 👉http://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain 👉http://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll     BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉 http://www.BetterHelp.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉http://www.on.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 https://www.richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media  and follow us @voicingchange

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0:00.0

It's crazy, like the heat starts and I just click into this like mode where I'm just like,

0:07.0

I'm winning.

0:08.0

But at the same time, you are this, you know, North Shore kid who just wants to have fun

0:16.0

and pal around with his guys. Competition for me has always been about, can I like let go to let myself be able to surf in these moments?

0:24.2

You were like so young when you sprung onto the scene

0:27.0

and kind of this hometown hero and with a young mind,

0:30.5

like that has to, you know, kind of weigh heavily on you.

0:33.6

I lost so much. I lost every event, first heat,

0:36.8

and I was not doing good at all. I kind of went on these couple of just free surf trips at one point and we were filming a bunch and I just remember having so much fun. Everything started clicking for me. I can have fun like that in competition too. Knowing a direction you want to go, having that goal set, but then just enjoying the process to that. That's the direction I want to go, and I'm going to start here, and then I'm just going to

0:58.5

take it step by step. Being okay, whether you fail or maybe you end up doing something completely

1:03.7

different, but just having a direction and a starting point and taking a step to do it.

1:11.4

Yeah, he's here.

1:13.5

John John Florence, the three-time surfing world champion,

1:17.3

the two-time Olympian,

1:19.1

and the guy with two-times the John in his name, that guy.

1:23.5

So you got that coming up.

1:26.2

All right, anything going on with you guys? Are you okay? Are you good? That is my

1:32.4

Mark Merritt impression. Mad respect for the OG of podcasting. Anyway, what can I tell you? I guess I can tell

1:40.2

you that I'm trying to remain calm and grounded in our increasingly insane world.

1:47.0

As some of you guys know, I'm into week five of my recovery from spinal fusion surgery,

1:52.0

entering week six, I think, by the time you hear this, it's moving forward.

1:57.0

It's a little rocky on the mental health front.

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