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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Winning the AI Race Part 2: Vice President JD Vance

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) The Besties welcome JD Vance

(1:24) Immigration

(6:34) AI policy

(9:27) Relationship with China: Technology competition, striking a balance, trade

(12:42) Diplomatic relations when AI is at-scale, operating in a multipolar world

(16:41) AI’s impact on jobs

(22:02) Should America facilitate “National Champions” in strategic industries?

(24:09) Working at the White House with Sacks

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0:00.0

I'm very excited to announce that the Vice President, J.D. Vance, going to be with us today. The last time that we saw the Vice President on stage like this at an All-In Summit, he wasn't the Vice President yet. It was about 10 months ago at the All-In Summit that we did last year, and obviously a lot has changed. I think he's been doing a phenomenal job and making us all proud, and it's going to be great to catch up with him.

0:21.6

So with about further ado, Vice President J.D. Vance.

0:25.6

Guys, how are you? Good to see it.

0:31.6

David, good to see you. Good to see you.

0:34.6

What's up, brother?

0:35.6

Jason, how are you, man?

0:36.6

Nice to see you. Wow. How are you, man, how are you, man? Nice to see you. Come on, how are you?

0:38.0

How are you?

0:39.0

Good.

0:41.1

So the last time I did this podcast, I think Jason was a huge asshole of me. I mean, I'm the vice president. You're in DC to be nice to me now, Jason. Oh, it's on? Well, okay, let me get my list of toppings.

0:35.3

He was hoping you'd give him a White House tour later today.

0:38.9

You're welcome to have a White House tour.

0:40.9

Really? Well, okay, let me get my list of topics. He was hoping you'd give him a White House tour later today.

1:17.1

You're welcome to have a White House tour. Really? I know a guy. I asked David three times. His invitation has been lost in the mail a few times. Well, no, actually, listen, if we're starting it up, congratulations on a great run. Thank you. I appreciate it. It was fun. You know, we can differ on some of the margins, but I just think all Americans appreciate the pace at which, especially in the technology industry, you're going and the effectiveness.

1:20.9

So I just want to congratulate you on that sincerely.

1:23.5

I appreciate that.

1:24.3

Okay, so let's get into some topics.

1:27.4

Right. Immigration. When we last talked, you said, I said, hey let's get into some topics.

1:44.6

Right. I said, hey, you're going to deport 20 million people all at once. That seems quite chaotic. And you said, no, we're going to do it like a sandwich. Take a couple of bites. How's that going? I think it's going well. I mean, we are criticized, interestingly, by some folks on the right who want the pace of deportations to be higher. And I certainly understand that, frankly, and share

1:48.6

that frustration. The counter argument is the courts are trying to stop us at every step of the way.

1:54.4

And until about a month ago, we didn't have the resources for ICE to actually get this massive

1:59.6

invasion that Joe Biden led into our country,

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