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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Winning the AI Race Part 3: Jensen Huang, Lisa Su, James Litinsky, Chase Lochmiller

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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(0:00) James Litinsky, MP Materials

(13:32) Lisa Su, AMD

(29:45) Chase Lochmiller, Crusoe

(43:26) Jensen Huang, Nvidia

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0:00.0

Guys, this is one of the most amazing entrepreneurs that you're going to meet, Jim Lutinsky, this founder and CEO of MP Materials.

0:07.0

Nice. Good to be here.

0:09.0

Hey, how are you?

0:11.0

So let me set this up.

0:13.0

Jim was a hedge fund guy, running a pretty successful hedge fund.

0:18.0

And he ended up basically investing in something called Mollicorp, which went out of business.

0:24.5

Yep.

0:25.2

And you did this incredible thing, which is you said, you know what, screw this.

0:29.4

You essentially shuttered the fund, took over the company.

0:34.0

And fast forward many years later, you are the largest and only, I think, supplier and refiner

0:41.1

of rare earth materials and maker of magnets inside the United States.

0:45.4

We're 100% of the American industry.

0:47.3

100% of the American industry.

0:49.3

You just did two really incredible things actually in the last couple of weeks.

0:53.3

One was you announced an enormous public-private partnership with the DoD, $400 million,

0:59.0

et cetera, and then the second is you announced a really big deal with Apple.

1:04.0

Yes.

1:05.0

Okay, so take a huge step back, talk to us why rare earths matter.

1:10.0

Tell us about the supply chain for AI. Tell us why you're doing this.

1:13.6

So rare earth magnets are really the feedstock to physical AI.

1:17.6

You know, robots, drones, everything we're talking about today, the biggest industry in the world to come.

1:22.6

Essentially electrified motion requires rare earth magnets. So you mentioned the predecessor went bankrupt.

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