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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Winning the AI Race Part 1: Michael Kratsios, Kelly Loeffler, Chris Power, Shyam Sankar, Paul Buchheit, Jake Loosararian

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) The besties introduce the day with Jacob Helberg

(9:08) Michael Kratsios, Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy

(18:24) Chris Power, Hadrian

(35:15) Jake Loosararian, Gecko Robotics

(44:37) Shyam Sankar, Palantir

(1:00:33) Paul Buchheit, Y Combinator

(1:13:35) Kelly Loeffler, Administrator of the Small Business Administration

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0:00.0

Five, four, three, two, one, zero, all engine running.

0:14.5

We have a lift-off.

0:17.0

That's one small step for man, one giant for man tennis.

0:21.6

The world's largest airliner, each wing is big enough to hold five tennis courts.

0:26.6

This new technology made it possible to meet the user's crucial means.

0:30.6

Enter the computer and a new age.

0:33.6

What a computer is to me is it's the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with.

0:38.3

And it's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds.

0:41.3

Here I am playing a game of chess with a computer,

0:46.3

which is analyzing board positions and applying a certain kind of intelligence

0:50.3

to figure out what its next move should be.

0:52.3

That's the subject of our program today, artificial intelligence.

0:59.0

The good future of AI is one of immense prosperity,

1:04.0

where there is an age of abundance.

1:08.0

Everyone can have whatever they want.

1:10.0

We're still in the very early innings of AI.

1:12.6

I would say the rate of progress is exponential right now.

1:15.6

Every time I think that we're overstating the impact of artificial intelligence,

1:19.6

something comes along that tells me we aren't making enough of it on the show.

1:23.6

You know, there's no 60-minute clock on this thing. This is an infinite game.

1:26.6

Think about solving a problem that would take humans thousands of years to solve.

1:30.2

Those who can harness and govern the things that are technologically superior will win,

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