Welcome once again to the conversations that matter podcast I'm your most John Harris. We have a

guest on who's been on the podcast before. William Wolf, how you doing William?

Good John, thanks for having me back. I think the last time you were on you were not at the

Center for Baptist leadership because it didn't exist yet. So you're going to talk to us a

little bit about what that is, Southern Baptist conventions coming up, what you hope to

accomplish, the ground game game all of that stuff I'll let you respond to some

Preliminary attacks that are being made personally on you as well as the center

I want to just say before I let you do all that, that this

podcast has been around since 2019 I guess and leading up to Resolution 9 and everything that happened.

I mean this podcast predates that and I was very opposed to

pretty much all the issues that were currently seeing the left push in the Southern Baptist Convention.

And it happened before I even started the podcast. I mean, some people like to say Resolution 9 was the beginning beginning but I actually think that this goes

back quite a few years maybe even to the great Commission resurgence in 2010 I

know others will say 95 I mean everyone's got their dates but certainly in the 2010s we

saw an increasing amount of enthusiasm for the diversity of the SPC, which meant sometimes it was unofficial, but these racial almost quotas, I don't know how to say it.

I mean, there was a concern concern it seemed like every convention just about

for even if it wasn't in the news they'd have to have a resolution about something

related to a concern over racism of some kind and usually it was from a leftist framing.

In fact, I think every time I can think of it was.

And then of course we have the Me Too stuff that came in.

We have now there's a fight over women pastors and this is the first

one William I've seen conservatives actually find a little bit more spine as

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