ID the future,

future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

Welcome to ID the Future. I'm your host Andrew McDermott. Today I'm back with

Historian of Science Michael Keys, a senior fellow of the Discovery Institute's

Center for Science and Culture and author of the book Unbelievable, seven myths about the history and future of science and religion.

Key serves as lecturer in the History and Philosophy of Science at Biola University, and on the board of Directors at Rastio Christie, an alliance of

apologetics clubs on college campuses. Mike, thanks for your time.

Welcome back. It's good to be back in conversation with you again, Andrew.

Well, you've written, as I said in part one, an important new essay that was recently

published in the journal Religions and it's called Christianity cultivated

science with and without methodological naturalism. Now the the piece is 33 pages

you're very careful and very thorough in your approach to all this and you detail the

history of science, the history of methodological naturalism, and how Judeo-Christian

tradition and thought influenced both.

And I found it just fascinating.

So let's continue to unpack some of the essay's key insights.

Now in part one we discussed your review of the history of methodological naturalism and the role of Judeo-Christian tradition in the history of science.

You gave us examples, specific people that moved that process along.

And that's all very interesting.

Now in the second half of your essay,

you discuss pioneering philosopher of signs,

William Hewell.

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