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Will Trumpism Survive Trump?

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2020

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

In this Trumpcast Plus preview, Virginia Heffernan talks to Princeton University professor Eddie Glaude Jr. about why she thinks Trumpism will fizzle out after Trump leaves office—and why he thinks he won’t, and why it’s also dangerous to call it “Trumpism.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello Virginia Heffernan here. What you're about to hear is a teaser for today's episode of Trumpcast,

0:06.0

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0:12.5

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0:19.5

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0:22.5

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0:30.5

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0:38.5

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0:44.5

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. We'll Trumpism survive Trump.

0:55.5

Increasingly, I'm convinced it won't and not just because I don't want to have to boot up Trumpismcast.

1:01.0

But because I believe after more than four long years on this show, the Trump as president has been too disjointed and cacophonous

1:11.0

and really shocking to exist in a pervasive workday ideology.

1:16.0

Trump is sui generous. I mean, we've had racists on the American main stage before.

1:21.0

But not one who's been as much of a demagogue, as illiterate, as show boating, as corrupt and as cruel.

1:29.0

And not on the main stage that is the oval office for someone that has all that going against him.

1:36.0

And if we had someone like that, he wasn't unmoored ideologically, a depraved maniac calling himself a Christian,

1:43.0

who sometimes says he wants to arm everyone and other times wants to confiscate all guns.

1:49.0

We've not had someone who's a hawk and an isolationist in the same breath, who's still at heart a game show host,

1:55.0

who's rich and bankrupt at once, who advocates the use of intravenous bleach and looks right at a solar eclipse.

2:02.0

I don't want to keep going over to this. I just don't think rubio or cruise or Tom Cotton or Mike Pence

2:09.0

or even the author of the Turner Diaries or any far-right racist lunatic can pull off the set of anti-values,

2:17.0

esoterica, and heromskaren flailing that made Trump supporters swoon.

2:23.0

And when they voted, what were they voting for?

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