Sabotage for Christmas
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4.5 • 6K Ratings
🗓️ 26 November 2020
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
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This week, Emily, David and John discuss the Trump Administration's efforts to hobble the Biden transition; ethical problems in vaccine distribution; and how to deal with the damage of the election fraud lie.
Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:
Alex Kalman for the Atlantic: “The Letters That Outgoing Presidents Wrote to Their Successors”
John Dickerson for The Atlantic: “Why You Don’t Mess Around With Presidential Transitions”
The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine: “A Framework for Equitable Allocation of Vaccine for the Novel Coronavirus”
Kathryn Olivarius for The New York Times: “The Dangerous History of Immunoprivilege”
Jeanna Smialek and Alan Rappeport for The New York Times: “Mnuchin Cites Principles in Clawing Back Fed Money. Democrats See Politics.”
Kevin Roose, Mike Isaac, and Sheera Frenkel for The New York Times: “Roiled by Election, Facebook Struggles to Balance Civility and Growth”
Colin Dickey for Medium: “How to Talk to a Conspiracy Theorist”
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Here are this week’s cocktail chatters:
John: W.E.B. Du Bois: Writings; The Vintage Book of Contemporary American Poetry
David: Death, Sex & Money: “51 Years Loving A Man Named Sissy”; David’s twitter thread pitch for remaking Love Actually every year.
Emily and listener Barbara Torrey Workman @thethirdbarbara: Twitter thread by United Farm Workers @UFWupdates featuring farm workers at work harvesting the ingredients in favorite Thanksgiving recipes.
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For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment David, Emily, and John discuss the elements of pre-pandemic Thanksgiving that they won’t miss this year and don't plan to reinstate next year.
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| 0:00.0 | That's my view. |
| 0:07.5 | Hello, and welcome to Slate Political Gab Fest for November 26th, 2020. |
| 0:13.5 | We're looking out the window of John's apartment. |
| 0:16.3 | He was doing something extremely vertigorous. |
| 0:18.5 | Yeah. |
| 0:19.2 | It's the sabotage for Christmas edition. |
| 0:22.7 | I am David Plotz of Citicast. |
| 0:25.1 | So we're taping on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, but we're pretending like it's Thanksgiving |
| 0:29.6 | day. |
| 0:30.5 | It's going to be Thanksgiving here in my closet in Washington, D.C. |
| 0:34.7 | I am joined by Thanksgiving from her closet in New Haven, Connecticut, |
| 0:38.6 | Emily Bazelon of the New York Times Magazine and Yale University Law School. Hello, Emily. |
| 0:43.0 | Hello, David. |
| 0:45.0 | And by John Dickerson of CBS's 60 Minutes from New York. Hello, John. |
| 0:50.1 | Hello, David. On today's GabFest, President Trump's GSA has finally acknowledged Joe Biden needs to do a transition, although they won't call him the president-elect. Meanwhile, President Trump has not accepted that he's lost the election and is also doing everything he can to sabotage things for the incoming Biden administration. Can he be restrained in that? |
| 1:13.6 | Then there is more great vaccine news this week, raising the question of who should get the vaccine |
| 1:19.9 | first and who should decide that and how are we going to decide that? And then President Trump's |
| 1:26.1 | lies about the election. Can those lies be undone? Can they be reversed? What are their consequences? Can lies be unlied? Can the truth ever out against a lie? Plus, we will have cocktail chatter. Oh, and before we start the show, just a reminder, we have been doing the show for 15 long and beautiful |
| 1:45.2 | years, and we are going to be celebrating that on December 9th at 8 p.m. Eastern. We're going to be |
| 1:50.6 | online for a special show to celebrate our 15th anniversary. It sounds like it's going to be |
| 1:56.0 | great. We're going to look back and look forward. So if you go to slate.com slash live, you can get more information about that. |
| 2:02.3 | And we're also going to be celebrating with a wine, an honor of the 15th anniversary event, |
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