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Welcome to Angry Planet. Hello and welcome to angry planet. I'm Matthew Galt and I'm Jason Field.

When it comes to US Russia relations everything old is new again Russia and the West are separating fast. For those of us who are alive in the 1980s,

it all feels bracingly familiar that includes especially nuclear saber rattling.

Putin, the Duma, and Russia TV

feel like they've gone out of their way

to remind the rest of the world, hey, we've got nukes.

But how likely is the possibility of nuclear war really and what are Russia's nuclear

capabilities exactly?

Here to help us answer those questions is Emmclare Foley.

Foley is an associate partner for research and policy at Global Zero,

an organization working to reduce the likelihood of nuclear war and ultimately eliminate nuclear weapons.

Emmclair, thank you so much for coming on to the show.

Thanks for having me. All right, so 1 to 10. How scared are you that we are on the precipice of a nuclear war?

So I would say if one is not at all scared, nuclear weapons don't exist, this is not an issue.

And 10 is there's like a confirmed report of an incoming nuclear attack. I'm like maybe, maybe a four, maybe three, maybe four, and I've gone as high as eight at different times during this crisis but I can kind of break this down in a recent interview I think for current affairs

Noam Chomsky said that this for him is the high point of the risk of nuclear war in his in his

lifetime and you know he's someone who I whose opinions I take pretty seriously

and I think that I am feeling a similar way,

although I don't have the same benefit of experience, right?

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