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The Biden White House has created the Department of Homeland Security Disinformation and

Governance Board and appointed a woman named Nina Jankowitz as its executive director.

In the aftermath of the announcement of this person being in charge,

she went incredibly viral online and every clip you could possibly

think that was mildly embarrassing of her doing musical theater was published.

Now I thought that is interesting because we had

had Nina on the show about two years ago

and we had a really interesting talk

that I think gives a view into her thoughts

on misinformation and

disinformation and what should be done.

It a pretty candid conversation two years ago

before she was being appointed

to head a new government agency that it been created kind of out of whole cloth.

There is, of course, at the end of this conversation, an embarrassing musical theater moment.

So if you're just here for that, stick around till the end and you will get it.

But otherwise, I think this is a good conversation that kind of gives you an idea of

where her head is at, what she thinks of these things, whether you agree or disagree

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