Hello and welcome to Not Another One, the podcast with me, Steve Richards, Tim Montgomery, and down the line this week is Miranda Green and Ian Martin is having a lie down after working long, long hours and hasn't been following the political twists and turns quite so much this week as we have.

And one of the things that we have been thinking about, reflecting about is this extraordinary position that the party, that has been

the governing party for much of our lifetimes, is perhaps, perhaps in near-terminal crisis?

Well, let's begin with that question. Tim, your former party, the one that you were so close to forming that rapport with

both front benches, MPs and members with Conservative Home, you're now with reform. Nigel Farage

made absolutely clear he plans to replace them. Do you think your former party could die

in this Parliament? Well, one thing that i i hate what's happening

to the consular party for all sorts of reasons with one big exception staunch conservatives

won't agree with this perhaps but the conservative party kind of does deserve

what's happening to it in the sense that if there is any accountability in politics, if we believe

in sort of consequences for actions, they broke promise after promise, they raised taxes,

they didn't control immigration,

housing numbers weren't delivered, they went in a different direction on the environment.

We all know what policy failures there were.

They mishandled Brexit, even if you supported it.

I just need to mention, you know, Liz Trust, the change of number of prime ministers, the ethics during the Boris Johnson period, there was that game, board game, I didn't remember when we

were, you know, when I was on, called go for broke, and the person won who did the silliest things

and lost the most money. It was almost like the Conservative Pope was doing that. How much could we test the electoral elastic?

So in a way, it should be punished.

There need to be consequences.

That aspect I welcome, but the problem for the Conservative Party now

is nearly all of the things that you historically associated

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