Welcome to questions from the closet. I'm Charlie Bird and I'm Ben Shalatti. Each episode

we discuss a question that we commonly get asked as LGBTQ Liarity Saints. We are not trying

to answer this question or come to a consensus but simply sharing our perspectives. Today's

question is, will God change my orientation? Charlie and I are not Charlie Leigh-Deevers and we

share many opinions and life experiences. For example, we both love going to orientations.

However, there are some pretty big differences. For example, I had an orientation today and then

did not. Which is sad because I really do love going to orientations. I did too. There's so many

things to learn and especially if I'm like excited to do something and then I get there and like,

oh yeah, teach me everything, orient me. It's also like you get paid but you don't have to do

anything and they like give you treats often. Like, here's a pamphlet and a candy bar that goes

with it. I did not get paid for today's orientation. Oh, it was free. How was it? It was pretty good. I

liked it. It's for my internship, for my grad program. Like my dream orientation would be like

to get hired at Disney World and have like a three day orientation. It's actually called Disney U.

All right. We're going to move on quick because we'll get distracted real quick when we get

Ben talking about Disney. Oh my gosh. Okay. So we would like to provide a variety of voices and

perspectives but today we're joined by nobody. Today we're talking about a pretty sensitive topic

and when we do that sometimes we feel like it's better for it just to be us and just so

if anyone takes the heat, they can be us. Yeah. Also, I was thinking about like the things I'm going

to say and how scary the things I say would have been to like 22-year-old me. Yeah. And I just

want to say things in like a sensitive way. So like 22-year-old Ben wouldn't be freaked out.

Yeah. As far as credibility is concerned, we are not theologians. We're not religious or spiritual

leaders but we are same sex attracted and we've both spent a lot of time and effort seeking for

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