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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Wide Boundary News: Biodiversity Depletion, Iran & the Strait of Hormuz, and the Green Wedge

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Earth Sciences, Natural Sciences, Science

4.8549 Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

This week's Frankly is another edition of Nate's Wide Boundary News series, where he invites listeners to view the constant churn of headlines through a wider-boundary lens. Today's edition features reflections on renewable energy and CO2 emission trends, updates on species adaptability, and a discussion about nuclear treaties and Iran. Nate ties each topic to the larger story of the Great Simplification, updating listeners on what pathways might be available to pursue the long-term stability of humanity in the biosphere. 

What does ecological simplification teach us about resilience in human systems? When we celebrate "progress" in the form of rising renewable energy or flattening emissions, where might we be ignoring hidden system-level costs? And how has repeated exposure to "contained" geopolitical conflict changed our collective perception of risk, particularly in the West?

(Recorded February 22nd, 2026)

 

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0:00.0

Good evening.

0:01.0

Welcome to another installment of wide boundary news.

0:17.0

Iran and what is building there is the biggest ostensibly story this week, so I will save

0:23.6

that for last.

0:24.6

In the news, in the narrow boundary news, in some of our feeds, for the first time, wind and

0:30.6

solar generated more electricity than fossil fields did in the European Union, 30% versus 29%. Solar has grown 20% per year for four straight

0:41.8

years, and all renewables are approaching 50% of the electricity, mind you, which is around 20, 22% of all

0:51.0

energy. And including nuclear, the mix is 70% clean electricity, while narrow boundary clean.

0:59.3

So headlines abound the last couple weeks, how the energy transition is working if we only would

1:04.2

follow Germany's example. But the system cost tells a different story. Germany has the highest electricity prices in Europe,

1:14.0

and the price of industrial electricity is now running two to three times what competitors

1:18.3

in the U.S. and four to five times what China pays. The result is deindustrialization in real time.

1:27.0

BASF hasn't turned to profit in Germany in two years,

1:30.5

and as a result has shut multiple production lines, closed ammonia plants, and is shifting

1:37.4

investments to the U.S. and to China. Many other major multinationals are exiting Europe's chemical

1:43.0

sector entirely and closing steel

1:45.3

and other energy sensitive, intensive facilities.

1:50.3

Over 100,000 German manufacturing jobs disappeared last year, almost 1,000 manufacturing

1:55.7

firms filed for bankruptcy in the first half, 2025, and GDP has been negative for five consecutive

2:02.3

quarters.

2:03.3

So the wide boundary lens here illustrates why we can never evaluate things like an energy

2:10.2

transition by looking at the electricity mix alone.

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