Wide Awake: Sleep Disorders Treatment with Phyllis C. Zee
Finding Genius Podcast
Richard Jacobs
4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 7 March 2023
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Phyllis Zee has studied circadian rhythm sleep disorders and symptoms for decades and shares key findings in this podcast. Listen and learn your way to better circadian habits.
She explains
- How circadian rhythms set the timing for all other physiological processes in your day,
- What are some circadian rhythm disorder causes and diagnoses, and
- What are essential habits you can follow to help your sleep-wake internal clock do its best.
Phyllis C. Zee is the Chief of Sleep Medicine in the Department of Neurology in the Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern University.
This podcast offers listeners an enlightening conversation about how our circadian clocks work and what happens when they don't. She is able to combine years of research with practical advice for listeners to address sleep issues. She explains that our circadian rhythms and sleep-wake schedules set the stage for all our other timing; therefore, disorders like sleep apnea or restless legs at night might fall under these larger issues.
She hits at the heart of sleep issues for many listeners: whether you are a night owl or morning lark, as long as you are able to keep to your ideal cycle, you might be ok; but problems arise when work and society dictate different hours. Therefore, your internal clock timing needs to be aligned with your social, physical, and work activities. She also addresses disorders outside of this tension such as the non-24-hour sleep-wake disorder. These patients have an intrinsic rhythm that is 26 or 27 hours, so they will drift an hour every day and have no predictability for their sleep habits.
She gives advice on how we can align our rhythm, from making sure we are exposed to daylight first thing in the morning to not eating within a few hours of bedtime. For similar suggestions and other glimpses into the mystery of sleep, listen in and enjoy.
For more about her work, see the Center for Circadian and Sleep Medicine website.
Episode also available on Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/30PvU9C
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | If someone goes to bed, you know, let's say they go to bed at 10 o'clock at night and get up at 6 and versus someone that goes to bed at like 3 in the morning and gets up at 11 a.m. You know, they both get 8 hours asleep. They both do this for a long period of years. What would you expect to see physically different in the people? You know, would hormones peak and trough at different times? like what would you expect to say? |
| 0:25.9 | The first example would be someone who may be a little bit more of a bird early type. |
| 0:28.0 | So we call these circadian chronotype. |
| 0:33.2 | And then the second example will be someone who would call an evening type or late type. So what's really interesting and important is that all their circadian rhythms, whether we're looking at the sleep wake cycle, the timing of that, or we're looking at something like cortisol rhythms. |
| 0:44.5 | We're looking at hormonal rhythms or we're looking at behavior rhythms, even when they're going to be most awake, most alert, their mood. |
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| 1:29.6 | Oh, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius podcast. |
| 1:33.3 | I have Phyllis C.Z. |
| 1:35.1 | She's the chief of sleep medicine in the Department of Neurology, the Benjamin and Virginia |
| 1:40.0 | Bush's professor of neurology dealing with sleep medicine. |
| 1:43.6 | So, Phyll, us welcome. |
| 1:44.7 | Thanks for coming. |
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