Why You Don’t Have to Forgive Them with Dr. Ellen Langer
Jillian on Love
Daylight Media
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 16 February 2026
⏱️ 79 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, welcome back to Jillian on Love. |
| 0:08.4 | I have one of the most exciting, incredible guests today. |
| 0:13.1 | She is absolutely brilliant. |
| 0:15.0 | So I just want you to go, if you can, into a meditative state and open your mind because what you're about to listen to is |
| 0:24.3 | sheer genius. I have Dr. Ellen Langer. She is an American professor of psychology at Harvard University. |
| 0:32.2 | She is widely known as the mother of mindfulness and the mother of positive psychology. Langar studies |
| 0:41.8 | the illusion of control, decision-making, aging, and mindfulness. And she is also known for |
| 0:49.8 | leading some of the most influential and groundbreaking studies ever. |
| 0:55.0 | Her most influential work is counterclockwise. |
| 0:58.0 | When you hear about these studies, when you Google these studies, |
| 1:01.0 | it is absolutely unbelievable. |
| 1:04.0 | And her recent book, The Mindful Body, |
| 1:07.0 | Thinking Our Way to Chronic Health, |
| 1:09.0 | published in 2023, argues for the enormous control we |
| 1:12.8 | have over our health based on the mind-body connection. So get ready. My conversation with Dr. |
| 1:21.9 | Ellen Langer. How would you like me to refer to you as Dr. Ellen Langer, Dr. Langer? How would you like that? |
| 1:28.3 | Dr. Langer, my grandkids call me Cosmic Leader. |
| 1:32.0 | Either Dr. Langer or Cosmic Leader. |
| 1:34.4 | Okay, God, I love that. |
| 1:36.8 | Anyway, Dr. Langer, welcome to the show. |
| 1:39.0 | I'm so thrilled to be speaking to you today. |
| 1:41.5 | Thank you, Jillian. I'm pleased to be here. |
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