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Jillian on Love

Why You Don’t Have to Forgive Them with Dr. Ellen Langer

Jillian on Love

Daylight Media

Sexuality, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health, Relationships

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2026

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Jillian is joined by Harvard psychologist Dr. Ellen Langer, the pioneer of mindfulness research, for a conversation that challenges everything you think you know about stress, healing, and being present. Dr. Langer explains why mindfulness isn’t about meditation—it’s about noticing. They unpack how our mindset shapes our relationships, our health, and even how we age. From letting go of labels to rethinking forgiveness, this episode is a masterclass in conscious living. Buy Dr. Ellen Langer’s book, The Mindful Body Download Jillian’s FREE limerence workbook, http://jillianturecki.com/workbook  Join my community and membership, The Conscious Woman Submit your relationship question for Jillian at https://forms.gle/FbtgkGTwfnrjvHwW7  Order Jillian's book It Begins with You: The 9 Hard Truths About Love That Will Change Your Life at https://www.jillianturecki.com/book ~~ Follow the show on: Instagram: @jillianonlove Email the show at hello@jillianonlove.com  Subscribe to Jillian on Love+ on Apple Podcasts or Patreon ~~ Follow Jillian Turecki on: Instagram: @jillianturecki TikTok: @jillian.turecki X: @JillianTurecki Visit her website at jillianturecki.com ~~ Jillian On Love is brought to you by QCODE. To advertise on the show, contact us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome back to Jillian on Love.

0:08.4

I have one of the most exciting, incredible guests today.

0:13.1

She is absolutely brilliant.

0:15.0

So I just want you to go, if you can, into a meditative state and open your mind because what you're about to listen to is

0:24.3

sheer genius. I have Dr. Ellen Langer. She is an American professor of psychology at Harvard University.

0:32.2

She is widely known as the mother of mindfulness and the mother of positive psychology. Langar studies

0:41.8

the illusion of control, decision-making, aging, and mindfulness. And she is also known for

0:49.8

leading some of the most influential and groundbreaking studies ever.

0:55.0

Her most influential work is counterclockwise.

0:58.0

When you hear about these studies, when you Google these studies,

1:01.0

it is absolutely unbelievable.

1:04.0

And her recent book, The Mindful Body,

1:07.0

Thinking Our Way to Chronic Health,

1:09.0

published in 2023, argues for the enormous control we

1:12.8

have over our health based on the mind-body connection. So get ready. My conversation with Dr.

1:21.9

Ellen Langer. How would you like me to refer to you as Dr. Ellen Langer, Dr. Langer? How would you like that?

1:28.3

Dr. Langer, my grandkids call me Cosmic Leader.

1:32.0

Either Dr. Langer or Cosmic Leader.

1:34.4

Okay, God, I love that.

1:36.8

Anyway, Dr. Langer, welcome to the show.

1:39.0

I'm so thrilled to be speaking to you today.

1:41.5

Thank you, Jillian. I'm pleased to be here.

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