All right, Mr. Jenkinson, blessing us again.

How are you doing today?

You know, it's a good day.

I moved some firewood around twice, one of them unnecessary, one of them inevitable.

So welcome to the country, right?

That's right. That's right. I have a court of wood stacked in my garage that was dumped beside the garage. Of course it was. And then having to stack it.

And it's a good, it's a good labor. It's a good labor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, welcome back.

This is, I think, our fourth conversation together over the

years, which has been a real treat. We must be doing something right then. I think so. I like to think so.

I mean, you know, it's always a good day when I see your name in my calendar, so I'll take it.

I want to start with a little excerpt from your latest book.

You said matrimony is the place where culture leans on love for its portion.

It's tithe.

It is the mothering of culture.

And ritual is its vehicle and patrimony, its precursor.

So I kind of wanted to set the stage with why matrimony

instead of marriage? Why matrimony? Sure. Well, these words, you know, man, I have discovered over

the years that you think the way you talk, not the other way around.

So I thought some precision was called for because, you know, any discussion in English in matters of the heart or just interior matters, let's call it that, you find that the toponymic capacity, by which I mean the capacity to identify where you are

in the terrain of the so-called inner life, is just a train wreck of synonyms.

I mean, they just tumble over each other vying for, you know, a singular attention kind of thing.

And I thought to myself, this probably extends to the notion that we're talking about here,

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