Hello and welcome to the GZero World podcast. This is where you can find extended versions of my

interviews on public television. I'm Ian Bremmer, and this week we are talking about one of the most

visited and most trusted websites on Earth, Wikipedia. At a time when Americans can't seem to

agree on anything, we somehow still agree on

Wikipedia. The crowdsourced encyclopedia online ranks consistently among the top 10 websites

worldwide and has become our go-to source for everything from Candlepin Bowling to the Manhattan

Project. But trust is fragile.

And recently, Wikipedia has come under fire,

especially from the political right for alleged bias,

including an uproar earlier this year

over an article titled the Gaza Genocide.

Meanwhile, artificial intelligence is changing

the way we all consume and create information.

Can Wikipedia keep up?

Today I'm joined by Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales to talk about the future of Wikipedia,

the rise of AI, the collapse of institutional trust, and whether a platform built on openness and consensus can survive an age defined by outrage and division. Let's get to it. I'm going to be. Jimmy Wells. Thanks for joining us on GZER meeting.

Thanks for having me. It's good to be here.

So Jimmy, your new book is about trust. And at a time when there seems to be such a deficit

of trust in leaders of all sorts, not just political, how do you think Wikipedia

maintains that sense of commitment, engagement, and belief among the community.

Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what sort of got me to write the book,

just thinking about, gosh, we've got this enormous crisis of trust in the world right now.

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