Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast. This is where you'll find extended versions of my

interviews on public television. I'm Ian Bremmer, and today, instead of zooming in on a single issue,

we're looking back on 2025 and taking stock of a world increasingly defined by conflict.

Two major wars dominated the news this year, Gaza and Ukraine for good reason.

They transformed global politics, they triggered humanitarian crises, and they reshaped alliances.

But while Ukraine and Gaza captured our attention, nearly 60 other wars and armed struggles

have been raging around the world. It's the most active period of conflict since the end of World War II.

Some are decades-long battles like Myanmar's devastating civil war.

Others are more recent, like the surge of terrorist insurgent groups in Africa's Sahel.

But each is a symptom of a broader global order that's breaking down,

driven by weakening institutions, regional rivalries,

climate shocks, and failing states. And the toll is enormous. Governments are pouring record

sums into military spending instead of education and healthcare. There are more forcibly

displaced people now than at any point in recorded history. Global trust is evaporating.

That all has consequences. So today, we are shining a light on global conflict in 2025,

both the headline-making wars and the ones the world has overlooked. We're asking how we got here

and what might keep our fragmented world from breaking apart.

To help, I'm joined by two people who see the world's biggest conflicts up close.

CNN's chief international correspondent, Clarissa Ward, and Comfort Arrow,

president and CEO of the International Crisis Group.

Let's get to it.

Thank you for joining us on GZero.

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