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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

The human cost of AI, with Geoffrey Hinton

GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

GZERO Media

Politics, News, Foreign Policy, News Commentary, Government, Geopolitics, International Relations, Ian Bremmer, Trump, Global Economy, Gzero World

4.7830 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Geoffrey Hinton, the ‘Godfather of AI,’ joins Ian Bremmer on the GZERO World podcast to talk about how the technology he helped build could transform our lives… and threaten our very survival.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to G0 World. This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

0:09.0

I'm Ian Bremmer, and today we are talking about something that's becoming a recurring theme on this show,

0:14.7

the transformative potential and the enormous risks of artificial intelligence.

0:19.4

And not with just anyone, I'm joined by Jeffrey Hinton,

0:22.2

the godfather of AI himself. Hinton helped build the neural networks that made today's

0:27.8

generative AI possible. No Hinton, no chat GPT, no Claude, no Grock. His work earned him

0:34.4

the 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics.

0:37.9

But in recent years, he's had a dramatic turn from technology evangelist to doomsayer.

0:43.9

Hinton now warns that technology he helped create could be catastrophic for humanity,

0:49.4

mass job loss, widening inequality, social unrest, autonomous weapons,

0:53.9

and eventually something far more

0:56.5

dire, are AI that becomes smarter than humans and not just a little, and might not let us turn

1:01.3

it off. He puts the odds of human extinction at 10 to 20 percent. Can I take the under? So does he

1:08.3

regret his life's work? Will AI replace millions of jobs or outsmart us all?

1:13.8

And crucially, is there a way to put guardrails around a technology that's moving this fast?

1:19.5

Jeffrey Hinton joins me to explain why he's changed his mind about AI's future and why the world needs to act now.

1:26.3

Let's get to it.

1:48.5

Music future and why the world needs to act now. Let's get to it. Professor Jeffrey Hinton, welcome to G0 World.

1:50.0

Thank you for inviting me.

1:52.9

I've been looking forward to having you on for some time.

1:59.5

We talk about AI a fair amount, and of course it's a very, very fast-moving field.

2:01.0

Are you getting more optimistic or pessimistic as you see the technology continued to advance?

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